How'* everyone doing with the riots and ****? Hope everyone is ok and staying out of all the BS.

I'm North of the border thankfully. The news has been horrific.
With the arrests of the cops involved in the murder, I hope things will settle down.

Everyone wants resolution, but I don't think the people and the government are ready for the actual outcome. I have a good feeling these 4 cops are going to get off easy or completely and all HELL is going to break loose.

Just because of the riots, there was once again, an influx of weapon purchases.

My girlfriend gets to work from home. On her desk is her Glock 45, and leaning next to the desk is her AR-15. She'* more accurate with the AR than the Glock. I pity the fool that comes up our driveway.

It'* a zoo. Unbelievable. Everyone who participates in riots and looting should get ten years for their actions. We're in a state of things where people seem to think that when certain people get angry in the right situation, that'* a good reason for everything they decide to do afterwards and they need our sympathy, understanding, and patience . . . while much lesser deeds done in the heat of much less anger during an unpopular event gets that person heavily sentenced.

Fortunately I live outside of town then commute to the edge of town for work.

I think Derek Chauvin will get a lot of time for what he did. There'* no way around that. He'* a trained law enforcement professional and his suspect was on the ground in handcuffs, no matter what else was going on. They didn't even have to chase him or anything.

The other three will probably get something, but not as much as him.

I believe that MPD needs to change their ways. For an officer to think that this was a good way to handle the situation, and then three officers completely go along with it, I can't figure out anything except that this combination of "procedure" and, for lack of a better word, "brotherhood" must exist to some much larger degree. I say "brotherhood" because some kind of undercurrent obviously exists to have three officer not do anything to get the fourth off their restrained suspect after he stopped moving for a long time. MPD should also study LAPD to make themselves better. I'm not saying LAPD is the best or etc., but they did have a lot of issues and notice now how we haven't had many egregious issues out there since the 1992 riots.

To be clear: I have great respect for law enforcement, They're mostly (like 99.99%) good and the bad eggs are extremely few, far between, and restrained by cameras, word of mouth, and self-preservation. At the same time, a cuffed suspect is under the protection of the law enforcement agency and officers that arrested them, and any involved in the chain of custody until release.

My $0.02

Anyone ever notice how the most 'woke' blue states and blue cities seem to have the problems with law enforcement, especially compared to us unsophisticated hicks in fly over country?

I will disagree with the '99.99% statistic. Get on youtube and search for '1st amendment audit'. You will find 1000'* of videos where police try to criminalize a 1st amendment protected activity and demand people for ID. Then they do the walk of shame. THESE are the ones you have to watch out for. The ones that ATTEMPT to violate your rights. And yes, you will find one to two videos where the police simply walked away because you asserted your rights and they didn't push the issue any further. THAT is the 1% of 'good' police'.

Yep, where law enforcement is viewed as a cleanup crew . . . until the cleanup crew approaches one of them.

Yeah, I was spitballing there. 0.01% would be about 8,000 , it'* probably higher, especially as "in-betweeners" drift worse and better.

Yes, these are an interesting gray area. I say "gray area" because they can legally ask all day long, and whoever they are asking can refuse all day long. Many of them ask because it'* okay to ask, and if identification is volunteered then so be it. One of the reasons the videos are so interesting is that very few people refuse and/or know they can refuse . . . so when a given officer gets refused they are surprised and often offended. While they are surprised and possibly offended, their suspicion is rising; "Why did this one refuse?" "What are they hiding?" "Are they dangerous to me?" "Maybe they're one of those sovereign citizens." That having been said, I get it, LE has no right to demand identification unless there is suspicion of a crime, and even then, local laws and their procedures (that do not necessarily have the backing of law) vary.

My take on this is that many of them often take advantage of the general public'* ignorance by asking in the first place, but what does that say about the general public? Most of the general public has no idea about such things, and also follow politics, elections, and lawmaking like they follow WWF, Kardashians, and the E! channel . . . then vote based on their favorite aspect of whatever they happen to be a fan of at the moment.

I'd have to disagree here. Perhaps that'* the 1% of "'good' police" in the videos, but out of 800,000 officers and deputies in the US making millions of contacts per day, if only 1% were "good", we'd see a lot more drama than we do, and Youtube would have millions of those videos instead of thousands.

It'* the ones that threaten jail time etc etc. Or are just annoyingly pushy.

Yeah, those ones are trouble. Or the ones that are very upfront about how they're going to hold up your day and life and detain you as long as they want because you know you don't have to show ID unless there is suspicion of a crime etc.