That'* good advice, it really is...but you run into some girls who don't typically call guys. It doesn't mean we don't want to go out, it'* just they don't want to seem too desperate or too forward.

Hope is not all lost for me .


-justin

Female pride

And I get called on my Male Pride :?

Um...well I don't have "luck with the girls," but I can try to give advice based on experience from the other side. Like everyone'* basically said, you'll never come close to knowing how she feels about you unless you talk to her about it. If you guys have been friends for a while, she might not even realize that your advances are advances. Don't be pushy, but make it slightly more clear that you're interested.
Amen. If she says no, respect her boundaries and stay friendly. I know it might seem embarassing, but really if you're respectful when you approach her there'* nothing really to be embarassed about. As an example, I know a really nice guy who approached me and gave me his number. I honestly enjoy talking to him, but I wasn't sure about dating, so I didn't call. He hasn't spoken to me for a while and it'* a bummer. My point is that even if she doesn't jump at a date, it doesn't mean that she doesn't like you at all.

It'* not so much of a pride or an ego thing as much of a how you come off type of thing. Does that make any sense?

Its makes good sense, I suppose something could be said for chivalry as well, which I would like to think is not dead.

I would like to think its not dead either but there are a lot of guys who don't know the meaning of the word unfortuantely.

Oh, it'* definatly not dead. I've found some really great guys that still know how to act, there'* nothing like a guy who will open doors for a girl and such.

PJ I couldn't agree with you more. I enjoy when a man has enough respect for a woman to open a car door. I recently had a man to open a car door for me but I thought he was going to drive my car so I started heading towards the passenger side and he started laughing and told me he was opening the door for me. I guess I have gotten use to the men that don't act chivalrous. It was funny and embarrasing at the same time.

not to detract from any of the wonderful replies, but sometimes, a woman can SERIOUSLY devastate a man with a rejection. Yes, I know its the mans problem to learn to DEAL with that rejection, but that could explain why rejecting some men can insure that they wont ever speak to you again. I speak from personal experience, I was terribly shy in high school, in fact my wife was only the second woman I dated. I asked out a few girls, got rejected and took it as a TOTAL rejection, which I see now was wrong. I simply was not what they were looking to date then, IE Wallet, Status, good looks, nice car. But it didnt mean they rejected me totally.

I havent had to deal with romantic rejection for about 12 years.

If I could re-live my high school years, I would definitely take all the advice given here about being yourself and honest. Dont let the fear of rejection stop you. It usually isnt personal anyways