more like rookies when they cook em cause they think the air brakes are like hydrolic ones in a car and they didn't down shift

Yeah, I know. I've been a diesel mechanic for years before I went back to school, and I was a truck driver for some time. I was just wondering if any of you guys knew. That is why I quoted Mike1995 when he mentioned it was a "wicked ride in a semi". I have been on those a time or two before

Or when you are going down a LONG incline, are maybe more than a little overloaded, and you start getting brake fade since you cannot control your speed just by downshifting, even using jake brakes. Even in pickups and whatnot, when you are towing, and go down a steep incline, it is helpful to downshift before you reach the incline to keep your speed down when you go downhill. Hydraulic brakes fade as well with heat.

BTW, air brakes are exactly like hydraulic brakes, they are just air actuated instead of fluid, and trucks use much larger brakes. Though, drum brakes are more common in trucks, disc brakes are becoming much more widely used too.

Or if a driver gets really tired and just wants to park it real quick. I mean REAL QUICK.

lol now that'* awesome! this whole toyota recall stuff has entertained me wayyy too much, anything me & my friends are out & i see one of the recalled models i always have to crack a joke about it =D

It entertained me for a while but now its getting overplayed. The whole Toyota situation has gotten blown way up by the media.

yeahh they are but sometimes me & my friends have a new spark of inspiration i guess u could say & we nail them so hard lol thank goodness none of my friends have a toyota

American media at its finest.....