what other cars that fast can you get for a lower price?

well for low 14'*(what I estimate the average driver will run w/6spd) you could buy an evo, wrx, sti, srt4, used fbody, used c5, 03 cobra(which would oWn them all)

You can get plenty of cars that fast for a lower price. Will they be N/A...if they are new cars, don't count on it. If I personally were gonna buy a car similar to the GTO I would go with a '98-'02 F-body, they are faster and cheaper and are just as nice (IMO). However if you are looking for a car that just runs low 14'*, there are LOTS of other options there...my grandfather had a '70ish (don't remember exact year) Nova with a 302 Chevy in it and it ran very consistant low 12'*, it was driveable on the street (my grandfather drove it everyday because it was his only car at the time), and it only cost him like $5600 for it...so if you're looking for a fast car for cheap, a new car is definately not the way to go. I agree the GTO'* are overpriced for what they are now, but when they come out with the 400hp version I would like to know what kind of NEW car you are going to find in that pricerange (which will be a little higher with the higher power output) with that kind of power.

BTW...I drove by a Pontiac Dealer today (Todd Wenzel Pontiac in Grand Rapids, MI) and they had about 10 GTO'* sitting in the front of the lot...my guess is they aren't selling too well.

Shawn

i thought they were faster than 14'*...

you *do* lose some build quality as opposed to the Monaro, do you not?

id kinda prefer an LS1 f-body over a LS1 Cavalier any day

Well then you prefer a drag racer to a turner any day.

There wont be LS2 ones for a bit I bet. The Vette cant be upped by a 30k car.

and it never will be.... thats like comparing apples to oranges... sorry if im offending you but i really think that the GTO sucks

I'm not offended by opinions

Styling? I woulda done it different, but i see their point.

It'* an LS1, and it'* got IRS. Not quite as quick as an F body, but it'* one you can drive every day, and take to the auto x on the weekend and dominate.

And I love watching the Top Gear Review of it....

Top Gear and the Chysler Crossfire