New anti-smoking law.
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Originally Posted by Jim W
...but they do, so, I guess the government has to tell him whats right and wrong
I'm all for the freedom of choice, but seriously, for the kids, don't smoke in the car.
I'm all for the freedom of choice, but seriously, for the kids, don't smoke in the car.
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Originally Posted by ddalder
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not sure if any of that was directed at me, but i never said i oppose the rule, in fact i agree that kids should not be subjected to secondhand smoke.
kids in their late teens however can make their own decisions. plus cops should not waste time with things like this when they could be put to better use (IMO)
kids in their late teens however can make their own decisions. plus cops should not waste time with things like this when they could be put to better use (IMO)
As far as police enforcing this, I agree that there are many other things they could and should be doing. There is a long list of things they shouldn't have to do. As long as people persist in doing things that adversely affect others, this list isn't going to get any shorter.
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I agree with the law, it'* a safety issue plain and simple. Yes it is about rights, your right to smoke should not impede someone'* right to good health. The law isn't meant to strip the smoker'* rights, but protect those who chose not to smoke.
IMO the littering from smoking while driving is pretty damn bad as well. Anyone who'* looked at, let alone cleaned up an area near any busy road, or parking area knows how many cig butts are all over the place.
IMO the littering from smoking while driving is pretty damn bad as well. Anyone who'* looked at, let alone cleaned up an area near any busy road, or parking area knows how many cig butts are all over the place.
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Originally Posted by MOS95B
Minnesota won't even let you think about smoking in a building other than your own home (I get the workplace an resturaunt part, but bars?? Who goes to a bar for anything healthy?). The Missus won't let me smoke inside the house, so I usually don't
I still don't see how your statement holds up. The reason people shouldn't be allowed to smoke is not because it smells bad. It'* because it'* unhealthy. It'* not about courtesy, it'* about well being. Whether or not you like the smell of smoke, it'* bad for you. It'* not okay to harm the health of the people around you because it'* chilly outside.
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Maybe the smoker should be forced to ask the child, "would you like to smoke a cigarette with me this morning?", because that is essentially what is happening. I doubt they will say yes.
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There is a huge debate going on in Ohio about this, and has been for quite a while.. Whether I'm a smoker or not doesn't matter, but it just seems this group of people is in the crosshairs of everybody right now. If smoking is so bad, which it is, then just make it illegal to smoke, period. I can go into a bar, have a few drinks, but can't smoke. But I can then get into my 4000 pound vehicle and drive all over the city, possiby injuring or killing someone. I didn't hurt or offend anybody by smoking that cigarette, just ruined the lives of the people/persons I just injured or killed by being impaired.
How about people walking around with STD'*, or worse, aids? Are they a health threat to people if they don't disclose they have these diseases? Let'* ban sex unless it is with one person and one person only the rest of your life, so as not to be a health threat to the rest of society.
As to paying for health care costs of other people who do bad things, what about overeating? Obesity is out of control in this country, and the health care costs associated with it are astronomical. You may hear a news blip reporting about it, but nothing is ever DONE about it.
I just have a problem with regulating smoking to the extent that they are. After all, it is perfectly LEGAL. Just ban it, and be done with it. Some of this may seem extreme, but I have just had it with this one issue being targeted.
By the way, I don't smoke, but imagine how pissed I would be if I did
How about people walking around with STD'*, or worse, aids? Are they a health threat to people if they don't disclose they have these diseases? Let'* ban sex unless it is with one person and one person only the rest of your life, so as not to be a health threat to the rest of society.
As to paying for health care costs of other people who do bad things, what about overeating? Obesity is out of control in this country, and the health care costs associated with it are astronomical. You may hear a news blip reporting about it, but nothing is ever DONE about it.
I just have a problem with regulating smoking to the extent that they are. After all, it is perfectly LEGAL. Just ban it, and be done with it. Some of this may seem extreme, but I have just had it with this one issue being targeted.
By the way, I don't smoke, but imagine how pissed I would be if I did
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Why don't they make it illegal? Think about how many congress/house members smoke cigars/cigarrettes. You don't think they'd take something away from us if it affected them, do you? Same reason alcohol is legal. They don't want to lose it, so they won't make us lose it. I bet you if we had political figures(some 50%) in office that used "street drugs", and wouldn't take a public lashing for it, they'd be pushing to legalize it, or it already would be. End story, if it'* good for them, then it'* okay. If it has no bearing on their daily lives, unless it makes it easier for them, it'* illegal.
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Originally Posted by MyLittleBlackBird
Why don't they make it illegal? Think about how many congress/house members smoke cigars/cigarrettes. You don't think they'd take something away from us if it affected them, do you? Same reason alcohol is legal. They don't want to lose it, so they won't make us lose it. I bet you if we had political figures(some 50%) in office that used "street drugs", and wouldn't take a public lashing for it, they'd be pushing to legalize it, or it already would be. End story, if it'* good for them, then it'* okay. If it has no bearing on their daily lives, unless it makes it easier for them, it'* illegal.
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Originally Posted by auroralover
If smoking is so bad, which it is, then just make it illegal to smoke, period. I can go into a bar, have a few drinks, but can't smoke. But I can then get into my 4000 pound vehicle and drive all over the city, possiby injuring or killing someone. I didn't hurt or offend anybody by smoking that cigarette, just ruined the lives of the people/persons I just injured or killed by being impaired.
Originally Posted by auroralover
How about people walking around with STD'*, or worse, aids? Are they a health threat to people if they don't disclose they have these diseases? Let'* ban sex unless it is with one person and one person only the rest of your life, so as not to be a health threat to the rest of society.
Originally Posted by auroralover
As to paying for health care costs of other people who do bad things, what about overeating? Obesity is out of control in this country, and the health care costs associated with it are astronomical. You may hear a news blip reporting about it, but nothing is ever DONE about it.
Originally Posted by auroralover
I just have a problem with regulating smoking to the extent that they are. After all, it is perfectly LEGAL. Just ban it, and be done with it. Some of this may seem extreme, but I have just had it with this one issue being targeted.