Thanks. Frames have always seemed sloppy to me, so I don't think I will be using them. I created that logo years ago and I have it on EVERYTHING, everyone that has ever ordered decals from me has seen it imprinted on the envelopes. The menu bar is made from an image map.

what does it stand for?

Andrew Ryan Suderman

ahh.. makes sense. my intials spell RAM so people would make it into something it'* not supposed to mean. haha

you're quick with the replies today

I try

You know Intense'* older website? DHTML frames in action
Yeah, it'* not for everyone, I've made it work before on one of my sites, but it did get too complicated. Just a suggestion

Yes, one of the main reason'* why I think frames are sloppy.

I am very happy they changed it.

Frames suck, dynamic content FTW.

Pretty easy too.

you could utilize inline frames. i always kinda liked those.