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Old 12-03-2005, 06:05 AM   #1
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I moved into a new (to me) house back in october. 2 weeks after moving in the water heater destroyed the subpanel circuit breaker which I replaced. All was good until thanksgiving weekend when the thermostat died meaning the hot water is a tad over 160 degrees, 2 days later the plastic line for the hot water under the sink melted causing flooding to our bathroom.

We got that replaced but that water has blown the 40amp breaker IN ADDITION TO THE MAIN BREAKER on a daily basis, happend 4 times today.....

The property managment company is not being to helpful and is blaming the power problems on our computer equipment...true we are geeks and we have 4 computers in the house and a dedicated rackmount fileserver.....but still lol I felt really pised off that the landlord is refusing to do anything since section 16 of our rental agreement says:

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"Appliances - Although there may be appliances in the said dwelling, including range and refrigerator, and the use of these appliances is included in the rent, the Lessee agrees to accept all responsiblity for care and maintenance of these appliances. Lessee will be held responsible for replacing the appliances if the damages exceed the value of the appliance"
however I looked at secition 18c and it says:

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"Reasonable time for repairs - Upon notice in writing by Lessee that there is some building defect which is hazardous to life, health or safety, Lessor shall undertake repairs as soon as possible. Should there be a delay of more than 72 hours in making reapirs, due to difficulty in scheduling the work or obtaining parts or for any other reason beyond the Lessor'* control, Lessor agrees to keep Lesee informed about the progress of the work"
so what the landlord do morally and legally what is the responsiblity of both parties?
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Hot water Heater and Main Circuit breaker are not considered appliances. They are elements of the house and therefore should be covered by the landlord. Especially water damage from broken pipes and such.


And 4 computers should not do anything to the electrical, unless you have all them on the same circuit, then it might blow the breaker occasionally. I have three computers running right under my desk and my circuit doesn't blow because of them.

If you have any friends that are lawyers, I would just ask them about it, and possibly show them a copy of the lease agreement. Then if they say to, press the company stating you'll seek legal action.
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Start flushing lit cherry bombs down the toilet, then they really have a problem. Yeah, stick it to the man.

Anyways I used to be a property manager for a nasty trailer park and other real estate. Our lease was about the same. If something broke, just from being old or something we fixed it, no questions asked. If the oven broke because they tried to cook something on a plastic dish and it melted everywhere, we still got it fixed, but sent them the bill.
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Hans, look into Potato Rental laws. (Idaho...sorry, that just slipped out).

In Oregon, If I notify a landlord 3 times in a 2 week period that something needs to be repaired or replaced, and it doesn't get done, I can deduct it from my rent and do it myself.

CA is similar. Something else you might want to do is notify your city government of his practices. There MIGHT just be a few complaints, and the city can pressure him if they feel inclined to.
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In Oregon, If I notify a landlord 3 times in a 2 week period that something needs to be repaired or replaced, and it doesn't get done, I can deduct it from my rent and do it myself.

same way here in ohio too
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