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Old 09-03-2005, 02:03 PM   #11
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Steve, why are you turning this into a 'black' thing?

Almost 70% of the population of New Orleans is black. It has nothing to do with the color of their skin. How do you use helicopters in more numbers when there'* still limited fuel?

This was an unfortunate HORRIFIC natural disaster. Unprecedented. THAT'* why the help is slow getting in there, not because they're black.

Those comments were way out of line, and have branded him for life. George Bush didn't do this any more than you did. There is NO communication because it'* all wiped out. Things will get better, but not until people stop shooting and raping each other.
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i never made it a race issue. never came out my mouth. i just said someone spoke there mind and that help took so long to come. i know its there now but it took foever. stop putting words in my mouth please.
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i never made it a race issue. never came out my mouth. i just said someone spoke there mind and that help took so long to come. i know its there now but it took foever. stop putting words in my mouth please.
We're not putting words in your mouth when you are quoting, then applauding, a man who made it into a race issue.
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The tsunami that hit last year had releif just about the same day it happened. why can we rush to other needs but we have to wait darn near for our own. Sept 11, 2001 they had aid right away. Im done.
Not trying to start anything, but to me this sounds like you think it is a race issue. This statement implies that we helped the Asians, we helped the NYers, but we won't help the people in NO (which is what? 75% African American?)

People who think it is a race issue are not alone. Someone on Bill Oriley tried to make it that way as well. To be honest though, I have not seen anyone make a strong case for it yet, so I don't believe it.
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The tsunami that hit last year had releif just about the same day it happened. why can we rush to other needs but we have to wait darn near for our own. Sept 11, 2001 they had aid right away. Im done.
Not trying to start anything, but to me this sounds like you think it is a race issue. This statement implies that we helped the Asians, we helped the NYers, but we won't help the people in NO (which is what? 75% African American?)

People who think it is a race issue are not alone. Someone on Bill Oriley tried to make it that way as well. To be honest though, I have not seen anyone make a strong case for it yet, so I don't believe it.

and you think i am speaking on just a city? i am speaking of Lousiana, Mississippi and Alsbama as a whole. 3 states and it took 4 and a half days for relief to come. ot all of those places that got hit hard are full of flood water. Some of the families told the camreamen that they feel that they are forgotten and this was in Mississsippi. Im not going to say what area because i dont remember.
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This was an unfortunate HORRIFIC natural disaster. Unprecedented. THAT'* why the help is slow getting in there, not because they're black
this isnt the first hurricane that hit hard and bad in the US either.
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You know I was feeling as you were, I was watching the news and I saw all the African-Americans and I thought it was about race too, however it is not. As Bill said, 70% of New Orleans is African-American. The relief was slow because the country was unprepared for such devastation.
I was watching the news, and the reporter asked why it was taking so long for Canada to respond. Normally we (Canadians) are very generous, however this time we are not. When the Tsunami hit, British Columbians alone raised almost 6 million dollars, and at this time, nationally, we have only raised $66,000. I find that outrageous. The preception is that the U.*.A. can handle whatever crisis comes along, and that is so not the case. The money is starting to come in now.

I have to say, that I was not too terrible affected in the beginning, because like the rest of the country I thought that the States would handle it. However, when I say the children starving, and heard about families being torn apart, that is when I got involved.

And to Tracy, who went through the hurricane, thank you for all you are doing. Tracy has been working very hard and is helping those families.
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This was a Cat 4 Hurricane when it hit land.... How many of us noticed how large of a scale this storm was????

I don't care where this storm hit, it would have been incredibly deadly and even more destructive... I think I remember hearing correctly that NO in some places is 12ft below sea level... This is not a place to be when a hurricane is bearing down on you...

Several states and many cities were severely destroyed or damaged with this storm... And I'll bet the loss of life will be more than we have seen in most of our life times... I feel for everyone who had to go through this storm... My thoughts, prayers and best wishes are with them... It will be a very long time before they can say they are home again...


we all know the media is the media....

Living in florida I have been through a handfull of hurricanes... Cat 1 and 2... My family was supposed to move to Homestead FL in august 1992... we were evacuated for the hurricane... Homestead was almost destroyed... The house that we had lived in down there was leveled... The only thing that remains is the concrete foundation, and the tree in the back yard...

Last year as we had a Cat 3 or 4 storm, I packed the car up, got my mother, and we left... I drove from 3pm to 2am before I got to I-26 I had been up 48 hours I finally found 1 motel that had a room... I 95 was pure hell because everyone on the east side of the state was trying to get out... we knew not to mess with a storm of that magnitude... When the storm passed by, it made it to my Home town and dumped so much rain I almost didn't make it out... The water was only a few feet from the road... Later I got pictures of the flooding through town...

I have seen Trees blow over, I have seen power lines go down, I have been without electric, I have heard the home creek like mad, I have seen a Tornado skip up US-1 spawned by a hurricane... But I can't begin to imagine what the people of NO have been through...

I can understand some looting to get food or drinkable water and clothes... But shooting at the people that are trying to help you.... There is something seriously wrong with that..

I really do not know what to say... I do not feel that this is a racial issue...

I haven't watched the news today, But I'll assume that they are still trying to rescue people as well as get them to a safer place...

I could not believe that they used the Superdome.... I saw that on the news before the storm was to hit.... They felt that it would withstand the storm... I was in totall shock..



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Steve, It'* the WORST damage ever caused by nature in the US in modern history. How freaking efficient do you think the rescue/relief is going to be? Even HUGO and
ANDREW, 2 of the biggest storms, took 2 days to even get people in!

Roads are blocked, flooded, and destroyed. No communications, no electricity, no fuel. RESCUERS need these things to operate efficiently.

Quoting tripe like you did above only perpetuates the lie. He should have never opened his foul mouth.

Jesse Jackson got RUN OFF yesterday by African Americans because they finally saw through him. Rather than bringing in water and food (or money), what did he bring? News Crews and Cameras.

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Steve, It'* the WORST damage ever caused by nature in the US in modern history. How freaking efficient do you think the rescue/relief is going to be? Even HUGO and
ANDREW, 2 of the biggest storms, took 2 days to even get people in!

Roads are blocked, flooded, and destroyed. No communications, no electricity, no fuel. RESCUERS need these things to operate efficiently.

Quoting tripe like you did above only perpetuates the lie. He should have never opened his foul mouth.

Jesse Jackson got RUN OFF yesterday by African Americans because they finally saw through him. Rather than bringing in water and food (or money), what did he bring? News Crews and Cameras.

Smart.
Good point! Fuel here is in very limited quanitities in some areas. In the town I work in gas stations have run out of fuel. There are some that have fuel but want to charge $6 or there are some that will only sell 5 gallons per person to try and keep supply. At some stations cars are lined up trying to get fuel before things get even worse.
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