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Old 11-13-2003, 02:05 PM   #21
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Naw...not a good idea for northern climes, fine in California, but try convincing a daily commuter who is faithful to GM that all he can have is RWD. Not for anyone that has to deal with ice and snow...

GM will lose more customers that way. I would MUCH rather drive my Aurora in the snow then my moms RWD Crown Vic.

And I'm done
My mother had a RWD Mercury years ago and that car was a tank in the snow...way better than her GP. She tossed a couple sand bags in the trunk and away she went. And Crown Vics aren't a very good example of a RWD car...ask any cop who'* been around for a few years what he thinks of them. They'll tell you every time they want the Caprice back.

I'm not saying that all of GM should be RWD, but it sure would be nice if they offered anything in RWD.
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Old 11-13-2003, 02:08 PM   #22
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Ok..fair enough...introduce a few RWD cars thats fine. The Germans have all kinds of RWD cars, but they compensate with STATE OF THE ART handling technology and ride control.

No sand bags in my car please, all I was trying to say was I would rather pull in the snow (FWD) then be pushed (RWD)
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Beg to differ:

Taken off the GM media site:

“We showed concepts that became the Pontiac Bonneville GXP, Cadillac CTS-V and the Saturn ION Red Line...Bonneville GXP puts real teeth behind Pontiac’* promise of “Excitement,” with a 4.6-liter DOHC V-8 that delivers 275 horsepower and a performance-tuned handling package that includes four-wheel independent suspension, StabiliTrak and an electrically controlled transaxle with a 3.71 final drive ratio.
The GM Performance Division provides the skill, enthusiasm and integration to deliver uniquely branded performance vehicles out of a common “toolbox.”

These production-intent vehicles are the first in a line of next-generation performance cars and trucks that will be identified by brand-specific designations - SS for Chevrolet, GXP for Pontiac, V-series for Cadillac and Red Line for Saturn.

Pontiac presents five concepts - Grand Prix, Grand Am, Vibe, GTO and Sunfire - with an Autocross total performance theme. The cars are outfitted with performance parts relevant to autocross events, which are often run on parking lots and airport runways on courses defined by traffic cones, making handling as important as straight-ahead power. Pontiac also showcases the American Tuner Sunfire Coupe with an aftermarket body appearance kit debuting at dealers in late January 2004.

GM Accessories continues to grow
In 2001, GM Accessories offered 150 products. That number has grown to more than 500 in 2003, and will exceed 1,000 offerings by the end of 2004. At the SEMA show, GM Accessories has more than 100 parts on display, up from 21 in 2002.

Customized interior trim kits; examples can be seen at SEMA on the Pontiac Grand Prix, Grand Am and Sunfire; .

New engines, new technologies
GM Powertrain is using SEMA to show off new engines and variants, including two engines with Displacement on Demand (DOD) cylinder-deactivation technology for improved fuel economy. By 2008, GM will have two million vehicles with V-8 and V-6 engines with DOD. The new engines with this technology are:

The 3900 V-6, the latest in GM’* longstanding family of 60-degree V-6 engines. The 3900 will be the first GM overhead valve engine to use variable valve timing, and it will be GM’* first V-6 to use DOD. Its first application will be on the 2005 Pontiac G6.

If you really feel like GM is in trouble write or call the following:

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I personally would like to see a real full sized Sports Sedan, like the 92-99 Bonnes. Everything is getting so small lately. Nothing more fun than cruising the highway with the family, and having the power to pass or "whateever". That, and the advantages a full sized rear seat offers..
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I the advantages a full sized rear seat offers..
It'* those "advantages" I remember in my dad'* 1967 Catalina that got me married later!!!!
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I the advantages a full sized rear seat offers..
It'* those "advantages" I remember in my dad'* 1967 Catalina that got me married later!!!!
I suspect a shotgun, or similar firearm was involved?!?

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New engines, new technologies
GM Powertrain is using SEMA to show off new engines and variants, including two engines withDisplacement on Demand (DOD) cylinder-deactivation technology for improved fuel economy. By 2008, GM will have two million vehicles with V-8 and V-6 engines with DOD. The new engines with this technology are:

The 3900 V-6, the latest in GM’* longstanding family of 60-degree V-6 engines. The 3900 will be the first GM overhead valve engine to use variable valve timing, and it will be GM’* first V-6 to use DOD. Its first application will be on the 2005 Pontiac G6.


Oh hell I'm running out of gas, better turn off cylinder #5 &6
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I think GM designs some cool cars

Aurora
Bonneville
Corvette
Trans AM
CTS
Seville STS

The Montana is the nicest minivan on the road....
I need to add one more to the list...I have fallen in love with the 2004 Buick Park Avenue Ultra...



What a car! It'* one of the most stylish luxury cars on the road and packs the same power as my beloved Bonnie. I'm not going to go trade in my baby for it :P , but if I find I don't like the new Bonnies, and it comes time to get a new car, it'* a serious consideration.
I'd like to add a car too. It was ahead of its time too for when it was built. People either love it or hate it...
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Like a 2 door Aurora..go GM
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