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Old 01-31-2010, 06:19 PM   #11
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When I worked at McDonald'* we had an Ansul kitchen fire suppression system. One for the grill, and on for each of the fry vats.

I was told that if any of them were pulled that they'd have shut the store down for like a day because it would take so long to clean up the foam. Truth?
Oh yeah! Big smelly mess....

We also have to flush the Ansul system with a concentrate because the Ansul-X chemical is highly corrosive on black pipe.

It will also corrode any non stainless steal surface. That is why the kitchen shuts down after a fire system dumps.

Oh btw the chemical is liquid coming out of the nozzles; then turns to foam over the grease and smothers the fire. That is how it works so well.

On a side note though...the systems are also setup to shut down all electrical under the hood because the Ansul-X is 100 times more conductive than water is on electrical.

The exhaust fan is wired to stay on though; because if restaurant owners don't have there hoods cleaned the grease from frying coats the inside of the exhaust duct all the way up to the roof. Making for a really bad fire if the duct catches on fire. So the fan staying on is good because than the chemical will be taken up the duct putting out any fire started.

I've seen a few systems go off in training class. Pretty cool how it works. Big mess!
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Yea it would take quite awhile to clean that stuff up. Other than the normal clean up, they would have to drain all the fryer vats, grills and everything and put back to health standards.
Halon would be easier, but its far more expensive to maintain.
The Halon or FM200-Clean Agent systems you speak of are really only good for computer server rooms.
They don't carry a K-class rating needed for putting out grease fires.

Ever see the Terminator movie where they actually dump a Halon system? Fake I know but in reel life very unsafe!


Very dangerous because the Halon basically eliminates the air.

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Hey Todd, after I hit it big, you gonna come over and "hookup" my shop?
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Yea it would take quite awhile to clean that stuff up. Other than the normal clean up, they would have to drain all the fryer vats, grills and everything and put back to health standards.
Halon would be easier, but its far more expensive to maintain.
The Halon or FM200-Clean Agent systems you speak of are really only good for computer server rooms.
They don't carry a K-class rating needed for putting out grease fires.

Ever see the Terminator movie where they actually dump a Halon system? Fake I kow but in reel life very unsafe!


Very dangerous because the Halon basically eliminates the air.

By 2014 there wont be anymore 'Halon' the government is recalling all Halon systems and hand held portables.

Replacing all Halon with another gas called Clean Guard or Halotron.

The old Halon is very toxic...... kind of like the old carbon tetrachloride extinguishers were discontinued back in the day.

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Hey Todd, after I hit it big, you gonna come over and "hookup" my shop?
Sure. What kind of shop do you have?

If its just a auto body shop than you will need a I-101 Dry chemical system

About $4,000 installed in your typical one car spray booth.

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Question is, what kind of shop am I going to build AFTER I hit it big!
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Oh yeah! Big smelly mess....

We also have to flush the Ansul system with a concentrate because the Ansul-X chemical is highly corrosive on black pipe.

It will also corrode any non stainless steal surface. That is why the kitchen shuts down after a fire system dumps.

Oh btw the chemical is liquid coming out of the nozzles; then turns to foam over the grease and smothers the fire. That is how it works so well.

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The exhaust fan is wired to stay on though; because if restaurant owners don't have there hoods cleaned the grease from frying coats the inside of the exhaust duct all the way up to the roof. Making for a really bad fire if the duct catches on fire. So the fan staying on is good because than the chemical will be taken up the duct putting out any fire started.

I've seen a few systems go off in training class. Pretty cool how it works. Big mess!
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Question is, what kind of shop am I going to build AFTER I hit it big!
The little time knowing you......you would probably build a full service auto shop. I have a feeling you would want to help out in all aspects of the automotive field.
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Good one Nick!

WOW thats old!
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