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Old 04-09-2003, 08:20 PM   #31
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RIP Bonneville.... get em before they are gone
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EEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW yeah thats not good... i don't think pontiac is concerned about upholding car history or tradition... that ended with the TA. all they seem to care about now is stick with what they are good at... pontiac is VERY well known for their professional racing experience. they can mix combine destroy the names of those cars, at least they are keeping their (upper scale) cars fast and sleak,
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Aztek and bonne? yea good asumption! So ur gonna tell me they don't look Nothin a like huh? and who'* gonna be able to tell them apart if they're speed'n on tha street (personally I don't care too) I'd think u have too much time starin at someone else'* car while ur drivin try'n to see what it is anyway, and performace has nothin to do with how they look! the exterior style'n is very similar, different head and tail lamps maybe a different wing, and grill oh Now there totally two different exterior look'n cars now I see.......... Gp'* are always based on bonne'* anyway so I didn't surprise me they looked a like, but they to me look too much a like that'* my opinion and I don't expect anybody to agree with that. But don't try to be cute by make'n little comment'* cause Mista ain't tha one....... You get 12 people in a room and have them look at them, I promise u every one will see somethin different! some will say the look alike some will say they look nothin alike, who'* right who'* wrong certianly not one person. SO, keep smart *** comments to yourself........ I Can tell them apart but they still look so similar in my eyes.



It'* Mista has to clear things up for my part once agian........
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I don't even think I've ever seen a Bonne on TV...

Ever notice how you NEVER see Bonnes in movies either??? I always wonder why.

GM would be stupid not to put this whole line up in a TV spot.

Like Mazda with all their cars driving in a pattern, that would be neat to see.
YES there is....In the movie "Thinner"....the Mob dude that helps the "WHITE MAN FROM TOWN"...drives a bonne'.....I think it was a Plum SSE......but not sure...will have to go rent it now!!! Stephen King...gotta love it
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Mista?????? whos comments are you commenting on? your right everyone sees something different. how many people think pontiac is doing a good thing by changing like this?
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Mista?????? whos comments are you commenting on? your right everyone sees something different. how many people think pontiac is doing a good thing by changing like this?
The Bonneville and grand ***** will never look the same to me (except when i'm getting a "Bonneville!*punch* no punch back" from murdock and i'm trying to get out of it )
I wil always find SOMETHING to decipher them and i'm getting really good at telling the difference
If they combine the Gp and Bonneville someone just might as well shoot me. In fact sent me into CGP territory blinded and save you and I the misery LOL they would probably take care of that for us both quite fast :P
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Maybe I should restate my main point again.....
The Bonneville is no longer being made by Pontiac after 2003!
This is why the 2004 GP looks like it does. It'* styling is based upon the 2003 Bonnevilles. In 2006, GM will offer the GXP V8 GP as per the original hype given around the Bonneville GXP. GM has decided to combine the Bonneville & Grand Prix into one car line now!
We've been over this before in other parts of this forum. The Bonneville is NOT going away after 2003 in the US. Pontiac will have a full size car named Bonneville well into 2011. The Bonneville is now in what GM calls "midlife freshening", which is why the fascias and lighting are being redone. The B-GXP is actually a GM production hardware test platform for the next H body due out in 2006/7. These cars will include Impala, Bonneville, Lesabre, Park Avenue, and the Seville replacement....all of which will be RWD V6(base)/V8(uplevel) vehicles. The GP is offered in only 4 door trim this year due to the GTO. The GTO will be a Holden for only one year when the underpinnings of both cars will be merged. It is true that the GP MAY get a V8 offering, but from the talk inside GM, that has been axed due to the product leverage and demographics.

What GM Canada does is beyond me...remember that Chevelle ripoff they did 68-72? Maybe your Bonneville will be a Chevy Impala with a new nose and Poncho tags.
They didn't call the US spec Bonneville "bonneville" in Canada during the 60'* and 70'*.
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What GM Canada does is beyond me...remember that Chevelle ripoff they did 68-72? Maybe your Bonneville will be a Chevy Impala with a new nose and Poncho tags.
They didn't call the US spec Bonneville "bonneville" in Canada during the 60'* and 70'*.

Well as long as they are being made somewhere....I don't care if i have to go to the US for one as long as i get it. You're right...the Bonneville was a Perisienne (sp?) here till late 70s.
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Maybe I should restate my main point again.....
The Bonneville is no longer being made by Pontiac after 2003!
This is why the 2004 GP looks like it does. It'* styling is based upon the 2003 Bonnevilles. In 2006, GM will offer the GXP V8 GP as per the original hype given around the Bonneville GXP. GM has decided to combine the Bonneville & Grand Prix into one car line now!
We've been over this before in other parts of this forum. The Bonneville is NOT going away after 2003 in the US. Pontiac will have a full size car named Bonneville well into 2011. The Bonneville is now in what GM calls "midlife freshening", which is why the fascias and lighting are being redone. The B-GXP is actually a GM production hardware test platform for the next H body due out in 2006/7. These cars will include Impala, Bonneville, Lesabre, Park Avenue, and the Seville replacement....all of which will be RWD V6(base)/V8(uplevel) vehicles. The GP is offered in only 4 door trim this year due to the GTO. The GTO will be a Holden for only one year when the underpinnings of both cars will be merged. It is true that the GP MAY get a V8 offering, but from the talk inside GM, that has been axed due to the product leverage and demographics.

What GM Canada does is beyond me...remember that Chevelle ripoff they did 68-72? Maybe your Bonneville will be a Chevy Impala with a new nose and Poncho tags.
They didn't call the US spec Bonneville "bonneville" in Canada during the 60'* and 70'*.
Not to argue with you but to ask where you get your info from as compared to mine. I get all my info straight from GM Canada through Sales Meetings provided every quarter by the GM Canada marketing department for us GM employees. This info is what we base all our future sales figures on for all our dealership departments (New Car Sales, Service & Parts). I do NOT speculate, I just tell as it IS! With that said, GM USA, may have other ideas & plans for the Bonneville & Grand Prix though.
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That'* right, Tamara. We Yanks then took the name and jammed it on a remodeled Caprice for a couple of years when they decided to kill the terrible Malibu based Bonneville (79-81). Pontiac likes big cars and with Bob Lutz in charge, he'* trying to bring back the golden years of GM. So watch for things like Bel Air, Catalina, Grandville, Chevelle(SS prototype), Corvair, Firebird, Camaro and yes...even Eldorado. The last one is rumored to be a Deville-based 2 door, RWD, convertible ONLY piece. It'* life is dependent on how the XLR sells.

Bob'* idea is to get every divison back to it'* roots. Pontiac is the mid-priced, high performance division. The Bonneville'* next gen will be more along the lines of a BWM 5 series...that'* the goal. Handling, power, fit/finish will all increase by a power of ten. I hope it happens the way the drafters are saying....I'll try to get some prelim drawings out of my dad as soon as possible.
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