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Old 08-15-2007, 11:06 AM   #1
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Did y'all see this one?
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Juan A. Lozano
Associated Press
Aug. 15, 2007 12:00 AM

HOUSTON - In a confrontation captured on videotape, a hospital security guard fired a stun gun to stop a defiant father from taking home his newborn, sending the man and child crashing to the floor.
Here'* a link http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...edDad0815.html

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"I've got to wonder what kind of moron would Tase an adult holding a baby," said George Kirkham, a former police officer and criminologist at Florida State University. "It doesn't take rocket science to realize the baby is going to fall."
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I'm surprised the security guard is still alive...
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That sure doesn't sound good. But Lewis seems to be a pretty unstable and reckless guy, especially with the history of domestic violence that was brought to light. I can imagine how uncooperative he was. I get the feeling the mother didn't want him to be taking the baby out of the hospital.

Without seeing the video though, we can't be sure. There were two officers there. We don't know if the other one caught the baby and prevented it from hitting the ground. We do know that he did "scoop" up the baby and gave it to the mother.

But there definitely were safer ways that situation could have even dealt with. It'* not like he could have left since the elevators were not operating. A taser was not the right action.
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Right, there is no proof that the baby hit the ground.
But, as mentioned, he wasn't going anywhere so the tazer was unneccessary.
And, yeah, the guy may have had a history of domestic violence, but the guards probably didn't know that. The article stated they were trying to determine his relationship to the child. If they didn't even know who he was, then they couldn't have known his history, unless the mother was freaking out and screamin.
Either way, I think the tazer was a bit much, especially since he was holding a baby.
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I agree, his history wasn't known so that couldn't have been a reasoning behind the taser. It all took place within a matter of a couple minutes. I think they should have taken more time to talk to the guy before deciding so quickly that a taser was a brilliant idea.
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I guess it was just one of those heat of the moment things.
I think the guard'* heart was in the right place, you hear all the time about babies kidnapped form hospitals, but too bad his head was somewhere it shouldn't be
Maybe the hospital can remove it for him
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I certainly don't know the details but what should the guard have done? Sure the elevators lockout but the stairwells don't (I work in a hospital btw) He could easily walkout with a baby if he got past the security guard.

What would you do as a security guard when there'* some guy not obeying and, as far as you know, walking out with someones newborn?

Sure the baby would fall but you'd be amazed at how resiliant they really are and a tazered person doesn't fall right away so you do have a moment to move in.

I'm inclined to give him a freakin medal!

this from a guy whose grandson was kidnapped at 6 months old and thankfully recovered a few days later...
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Well, Tim I see your point too. Nobody wants to see a kidnapped baby. None of us were there so we don;t know the whole story. Just seems that he may have had a better option if he would have thought it through, but it is hard to do that in the heat of the moment.
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