What'* wrong with the PS2? I still have my original power cord.

It came out well before the X box did. Just because it'* not basically a PIII computer doesn't mean it'* not good. Example, GT4 graphics are amazing, hell nothing on any system was as good as GT3 when it came out.

But iMO, More important then graphics/sound is content.

Ferrari? Probably wanted too much for licensing, or someone locked them into a deal.

Bonne, don't make me pull a "Saturn LS/LS1" on you again!


...You're never gonna live that down, hehe :P

Yer, that'* the case with Porsche - the Need for Speed series has exclusive rights. Hence why there'* RUF - apparently RUF is considered to be an independent automaker because of the sheer amount of changes made underneath a RUF model?

I wouldn't think that would be too much a problem. After all, RUF makes those silly Porsches into some kick *** cars :P

Turns a porsche into a kick *** car? Last time i checked they were kick *** cars, even boxsters! But yes you're right Respin, they change so much, or swap parts between models (swap engines/drivetrains etc) that they're considered their own automaker, and everything that comes with it.

I don't want a Bonnie in GT4, it doesn't belong. Period.

No Bonne in GT4 is understandable... unless it can run with the big dogs, anyway

And nice job ignoring my Saturn post, BonneMe... :P

... And screw Porsche. They're turning into me-too yuppie cars, anyway, at least with the Boxsters down here in sunny mid-life crisis South Florida...

And a Honda Minivan does? :P

I never said that all cars in the game deserved to be in there I almost posted it but didn't.

Honda Minivan most likely has a manual option though....

Good point.
Funny you should mention the minivan with a manny option. My parents had a '92 Voyager with a 5-speed in it. If it had more under the hood it would have been a blast. Instead it was simply fun......
Good times, good times