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Old 02-22-2006, 03:59 PM   #11
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I still like the good ol' F-15. IIRC, the F-22 doesn't match all the power/climb rate numbers of the F-15. It'll be a sad day when they retire the last Eagle.
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Yea, its too bad the F-14 got discontinued. Fastest Strike long range air to air, interceptor the navy had to play with. and it had the 124 mile est stand off AIM-54[i think] Phoenix missle. I wonder what platform will carry that weapon if any. I doubt the F-35 can carry that big of a missle, being it was made exclusively for the tomcats.
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Yea, its too bad the F-14 got discontinued. Fastest Strike long range air to air, interceptor the navy had to play with. and it had the 124 mile est stand off AIM-54[i think] Tomahawk missle.
The Tomahawk is a cruise missle. The AIM-54 is called the Phoenix
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Yea, I was updating some other info on that post when you posted before I could correct it :P

edit # 400..lol: the AIM -155 is being made for the F-35 and other multipurpose VTOL aircraft..ie Harrier as a replacement for the AIM-54.
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Yea, I was updating some other info on that post when you posted before I could correct it :P

edit # 400..lol: the AIM -155 is being made for the F-35 and other multipurpose VTOL aircraft..ie Harrier as a replacement for the AIM-54.
Lol.... you gotta be quick around here! The funny thing is, we traded those last posts within 3 minutes of each other!
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I like the F-35, but may I present the reason why the f-35 will be the worst group support fighter of all. Because it cannot carry this. http://www.nazarian.no/wep.asp?id=40..._id=181&lang=0
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I like the F-35, but may I present the reason why the f-35 will be the worst group support fighter of all. Because it cannot carry this. http://www.nazarian.no/wep.asp?id=40..._id=181&lang=0
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No engine in those pics yet. Just an empty fuselage.

Probably off for the final paint.
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I still like the good ol' F-15. IIRC, the F-22 doesn't match all the power/climb rate numbers of the F-15. It'll be a sad day when they retire the last Eagle.
All of the reactions I've seen from test pilot'* first flight in the F-22 include comments about how powerful it felt on take-off. Even if it has less power than an F-15, with it'* thrust vectoring engines, stealth, and supercruise it'* no competetion. They ran a simulation and ONE F-22 took out FIVE F-15s in a matter of minutes, and the F-15 pilots said they never saw it. The F-15 still has it'* appeal though, and will be missed when it'* eventually phased out.

I agree with the rest of you, the A-10 is still better than the F-35 for flying in close and taking out tanks and large groups of ground personnel.
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I still like the good ol' F-15. IIRC, the F-22 doesn't match all the power/climb rate numbers of the F-15. It'll be a sad day when they retire the last Eagle.
All of the reactions I've seen from test pilot'* first flight in the F-22 include comments about how powerful it felt on take-off. Even if it has less power than an F-15, with it'* thrust vectoring engines, stealth, and supercruise it'* no competetion. They ran a simulation and ONE F-22 took out FIVE F-15s in a matter of minutes, and the F-15 pilots said they never saw it. The F-15 still has it'* appeal though, and will be missed when it'* eventually phased out.

I agree with the rest of you, the A-10 is still better than the F-35 for flying in close and taking out tanks and large groups of ground personnel.
The A10 is a totally different concept. That'* like comparing one of us against a Ferrarri.

The A10 is an Attack aircraft. It was built for one thing, and one thing only. Blowing up crap on the ground. Don't get me wrong, after watching a couple in action, and talking to a few pilots, I still think the A10 is the baddest **** in it'* field.

The F22 and F35 are fighters. Their primary job is air to air, but can be fitted for other roles. They are gonna be the baddest ****'* in thier field....
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