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Old 12-17-2006, 12:19 AM   #11
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I almost drive 'em every day at work!

was at a dealer 2 days ago. a brand new turbo came in.
All the salesmen said Im going to take that baby for a ride tomorrow. :P
then the guy who dropped it off noticed a small dent in the front bumper.
they were all. like. Im not touching it. dont blame me.



my view-------- way to small for this big guy.
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Yeah that GXP really is fast. I mean have you looked at the power to liter ratio? WOOH, thats one fast machine, I've been thinking about going and testing one out.

Nevermind power to liter.... What about power to weight?
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Nevermind power to liter.... What about power to weight?
The Solstice is a pretty light car (~1900lbs), considering the creature comforts, and pretty well made from my very close inspection of one. (Methinks a Japanese engineering team were involved in it somewhere...just the way things were done under the hood is a departure from typical GM mass-consumption construction.)

What I really want is a Solstice rolling chassis. Just doing some quick measurements, you could stuff a small block V8 in it, using a longitudinal mount and a T6 manual transmission. I don't know if the rest of the driveline would take it, but I would dearly love to find out.

Give one 300hp and it would generate performance number to smoke the Corvette (and probably a few exotics) right off the asphalt.
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The Solstice is a pretty light car (~1900lbs), considering the creature comforts, and pretty well made from my very close inspection of one. (Methinks a Japanese engineering team were involved in it somewhere...just the way things were done under the hood is a departure from typical GM mass-consumption construction.)

What I really want is a Solstice rolling chassis. Just doing some quick measurements, you could stuff a small block V8 in it, using a longitudinal mount and a T6 manual transmission. I don't know if the rest of the driveline would take it, but I would dearly love to find out.

Give one 300hp and it would generate performance number to smoke the Corvette (and probably a few exotics) right off the asphalt.
I know the Dodge division of Chrysler used to sell what were called "Bodies in White" versions of Neons and Daytonas...basically a rolling chassis that you can buy right from the dealer for various things like instruction aids for VoTec or SCCA race-prepping. Wonder if GM does the same thing...hmm...a rolling chassis Malibu Maxx SS...stuff that with the 5.3..mmmmmm......or, oh yeah, the Solstice, or the Sky...I like that body better
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I'm biased from the start, because I don't like small cars. But here'* my take:

PROS:
1) Great looking car, very sporty interior and exterior.
2)It'* peppy. I haven't driven a turbo yet (we just got our first one last week) but the ecotek isn't a slouch.
3) Dependable motor. Once again, the Ecotec. About the only things I've ever replaced on the ecotec has been water pumps and ignition modules. Nothing else.
4)Great looking car. This deserves to be said again, because for $20k, it is very sharp on the eyes.
CONS:
1) Comfort. At 5ft 6in, 140lbs I'm not a big guy. But I realy have to shoe horn myself into this car. And once I'm in, movement is minamal.
2)Build quality. I have seen these cars in with as little as 200 miles with problems like sagging doors and leaking tops.
3) Drive line problems. Many have problems with rear end noise in the parking lot which seems to be solved by a fluid flush. Many also have a driveline "clunk" that has no fix as of yet.
4) Safety. This is a personal opinion(i guess this whole post is), but I've been underneith a Solstice. Not much there as of metal. If you hit a dear, a puppy, a gerbal, or a rock this thing looks like it will break in two. Being a small car, everything on it is light weight.
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Nevermind power to liter.... What about power to weight?
The Solstice is a pretty light car (~1900lbs), considering the creature comforts, and pretty well made from my very close inspection of one. (Methinks a Japanese engineering team were involved in it somewhere...just the way things were done under the hood is a departure from typical GM mass-consumption construction.)

What I really want is a Solstice rolling chassis. Just doing some quick measurements, you could stuff a small block V8 in it, using a longitudinal mount and a T6 manual transmission. I don't know if the rest of the driveline would take it, but I would dearly love to find out.

Give one 300hp and it would generate performance number to smoke the Corvette (and probably a few exotics) right off the asphalt.
1900 lbs?!! What are you smoking? The only cars that weigh that much in the states are the Lotus Elise, Exige and the Ariel Atom. Try around 2900 lbs.


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I know the Dodge division of Chrysler used to sell what were called "Bodies in White" versions of Neons and Daytonas...basically a rolling chassis that you can buy right from the dealer for various things like instruction aids for VoTec or SCCA race-prepping. Wonder if GM does the same thing...hmm...a rolling chassis Malibu Maxx SS...stuff that with the 5.3..mmmmmm......or, oh yeah, the Solstice, or the Sky...I like that body better Wink
Pontiac already has a prep ready car in its option sheet. RPO ZOK
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Club Sport Package, includes 4-wheel anti-lock brakes, limited slip rear differential, sport-tuned 4-wheel independent suspension, 5-speed manual transmission (Not available with any other options or packages other than exterior color selection.)


And as for the V8'* in them, yeah thats been done too. Mallett Performance in Ohio will do it for about $20,000 (not including cost of the car).

http://www.mallettcars.com/solstice-conversion.htm
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just looked it up, it really is 2900 pounds, that'* pretty danm heavy for it'* size, i wouldntve expected it to be over 2500
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I'm biased from the start, because I don't like small cars. But here'* my take:

CONS:
1) Comfort. At 5ft 6in, 140lbs I'm not a big guy. But I realy have to shoe horn myself into this car. And once I'm in, movement is minamal.
2)Build quality. I have seen these cars in with as little as 200 miles with problems like sagging doors and leaking tops.
3) Drive line problems. Many have problems with rear end noise in the parking lot which seems to be solved by a fluid flush. Many also have a driveline "clunk" that has no fix as of yet.
4) Safety. This is a personal opinion(i guess this whole post is), but I've been underneith a Solstice. Not much there as of metal. If you hit a dear, a puppy, a gerbal, or a rock this thing looks like it will break in two. Being a small car, everything on it is light weight.
You're 5'6 and 140 an don't fit well in it? I'm 5'10" , 200, and It'* not a tight fit for me. It'* not as easy to get in as a 4 door sedan obviously, but for a sports car, it'* not bad by anymeans.

The solstice has a backbone style frame similar to C5 and C6 corvettes. It'* actually built pretty well, and they've taken big hits pretty well..

2900lbs is a weighed up with fuel and what not. When driving It doesn't feel heavy, it'* got a nice tight sports car feel.
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(Methinks a Japanese engineering team were involved in it somewhere...
Nope, GM decided that this car was going to be the ultimate statement of their new dedication to quality and performance. They spent three months arranging the assemsly line, tearing it down and rearranging it, just so they could get everything perfect.
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CONS:
1) Comfort. At 5ft 6in, 140lbs I'm not a big guy. But I realy have to shoe horn myself into this car. And once I'm in, movement is minamal.[
You're 5'6 and 140 an don't fit well in it? I'm 5'10" , 200, and It'* not a tight fit for me. It'* not as easy to get in as a 4 door sedan obviously, but for a sports car, it'* not bad by anymeans.
I'm 6'1" 210 or so and I fit fine in the Solstice too. The only hard part for me was the getting out.Feels like you're sitting on the ground (which isnt necessarily a bad thing)
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