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Old 11-22-2004, 01:50 AM   #1
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I saw that on the news tonight.....How pathetic....what is this world coming to?
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Here'* the article:

Five Shot Dead After Deer Hunter Dispute

{Hayward, Wis.} (AP) A dispute among deer hunters over a tree stand in northwestern Wisconsin erupted Sunday in a shooting that left five people dead and three injured, officials said.
The alleged gunman, a man from the Twin Cities area, wasarrested at about 5:15 p.m. Sunday at the Rusk and Sawyer County line, according to Sawyer County sheriff'* officials. The violence began shortly after a hunting party saw a hunter occupying their tree stand, Sawyer County Chief Deputy Tim Zeigle told a St. Paul, Minn. television staton a confrontation, and shooting, followed. One of the shooting victims radioed back to the deer shack for help, he said. When more hunters came to the scene, they also were shot, Zeigle said. The shootings happened in the town of Meteor in southwestern Sawyer County, County Sheriff James Meier said in a news release.Three people were taken to a local hospital, Meier said. Melody Hargis, nursing supervisor at St. Joseph'* Hospital in Marshfield, said one of the victims, a man, was there in critical condition. KSTP reported two wounded were brought to a Rice Lake hospital, where they were in critical and fair conditions. Wisconsin'* statewide deer gun hunting season started Saturday and lasts for nine days. Bill Wagner, 72, of Oshkosh, was about two miles away near Deer Lake with a party of about 20 other hunters. He said the incident was "very upsetting." After they got word of a shooting, he and others went to round up the rest of the party. He said they heard sirens, planes and helicopters and noticed the surrounding roads blocked off. "When you're hunting you don't expect somebody to try to shoot you and murder you," he said. "You have no idea who is coming up to you." It took about three hours to round up the other hunters, who were up to four miles apart, Wagner said. The incident won't dampen their hunt, he said. "We're all old, dyed-in-wool hunters," he said. "We wouldn't go home because of this but we will keep it in our minds. We're not forgetting it."
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Too many wacked out people in this world with guns
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That is really awful!! What is this world coming to???
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The worst part, that I saw on one news report, but not in articles posted here yet, was the shooter actually left [i]and then came back[/b]!!!

I really hope Wisconson has the death penalty....
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nope just life in prison
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That kinda sucks.

You know the guy is gonna go for the insanity plea. In my opinion (and I think it'* been verified elsewhere), if he really did leave, then come back, there'* no way insanity will work. He had more than enough time to think about it.

The next thing I bet he (or his lawyer) tries is "Cultual Differences" since he is an immigrant. But, I can't think of any culture that would allow this when the shooter was the one trespassing....
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The guy wasn't hunting. At least not deer. The report I read said that of all the people killed or injured, there was only ONE rifle between them. Most were clearly unarmed.
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Sheriff outlines chain of events in shootings
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November 22, 2004 SHOTPRESS1123




HAYWARD, WIS. -- The first three victims in a hunting camp shooting in northwestern Wisconsin on Sunday were apparently taken by surprise, and the other five were hit when they came to help, the Sawyer County Sheriff said today.

Sheriff Jim Meier said during a news conference that the suspect, Chai Vang, 36, of St. Paul, apparently came into the county with other friends to hunt on public land where he may have hunted before.

Vang apparently became lost and asked some other hunters for directions. At some point, Meier said, Vang wandered onto a privately owned 400-acre tract where he discovered and occupied a deer stand.

The tract is well marked with "no trespassing'' signs Meier said.

The owners of the tract were at a hunting camp on the property and one of the members of the party, on an ATV, found Vang in the tree stand at around noon. The man used a walkie-talkie to call back to camp to ask if Vang had permission to hunt there.

Shooting suspectKstp-tvHe was told no and asked Vang to leave, Meier said. Two other members of the party joined the first member.

Vang agreed, climbed down and walked away.

''The suspect was walking away at the time. For some apparent reason he turned and opened fire on them,'' Meier said, hitting the man with the walkie-talkie.

That man called for help and when other members of the party responded Vang allegedly opened fire on them, too, the sheriff said.

Other members of the hunting party left the camp and, unarmed and under fire tried to help the victims, he said.

"The rescuers left the dead at the scene and took the others to Birchwood (Wis.) for treatment," Meier said.

Doctor describes woundsJim MoneAssociated PressThe injured were identified as Lauren Hesebeck and Dennis Drew, both hospitalized in Rice Lake, and Terry Willers, hospitalized in Marshfield, Wis. Authorities said the dead were Robert Crotteau, 42, and his son, Joey, 20; Al Laski, 43; Mark Roidt, 28; and Jessica Willers, 27, daughter of Terry Willers.

The man who first confronted Vang and who was wounded wrote down in the dust on his ATV the number on the hunting license Vang had pinned to his back. Police were able to use the number to get Vang'* name and relay it to other law enforcement officials.

Map of shootingsThe shooting ended after about fifteen minutes and Vang disappeared.

Later in the afternoon two men riding ATVs talked with a game warden who told them to watch for Vang, Meier said. Later in the day, a hunter told them he was lost. The two men volunteered to take the hunter for help. When they saw his license number and realized the lost man was Vang they asked if they could take him to a game warden. Vang agreed, Meier said.

Jeremy Peery, 28, a DNR conservation warden from Ladysmith, arrested Vang abotu 3/4 of a mile from the shooting scene along a logging road.

Peery recognized the license tag on Vang'* back and made the arrest. Vang did not resist. ''He was very calm. He didn't say anything. It'* interesting that he was that calm,'' Peery said. He cuffed Vang and put him into his DNR vehicle.

Vang is in custody at the Sawyer County Jail. He has not confessed to a crime, Meier said.

Law enforcement agencies including the Sawyer, Barron and Rusk county sheriff'* departments, local police departments, the FBI and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms are investigating as are agencies in the Twin Cities, Meier said.

Meier said Vang was a naturalized American citizen originally from Laos and had military experience. He speaks English well, Meier said.

A woman who said she was Vang'* sister and that she lives in Minneapolis, but who wouldn't give her name, arrived in the area at mid-morning. Asked if her brother is innocent of the crime, she said ''I don't know.''

Two surviving victims of the rampage were shot from only a few dozen yards away, the surgeon who treated them said today.

Dr. Lynn Koob told reporters at Lakeview Medical Center this morning that Denny Drew and Lauren Hesebeck were shot from about 50 yards away by someone using a high-powered weapon. Koob said the injuries "ranked right up there" with the worst he had seen at the hospital, which occasionally treats gunshot victims.

Koob said he concluded the weapons were high powered due to the amount of tissue damage. He said he knew the victims and their families, but "emotions take a back seat when you're in the operating room. After we're done with the surgery, the emotions kind of catch up to you sometimes."

Drew remained in critical condition this morning, Koob said. Doctors were weaning him off medications to support his blood pressure and his vital organs were working well today.

"It seems like he is stabilizing," Koob said. "He'* actually doing a little better than last night."

Koob described how Drew had been shot by a bullet that tore through his abdominal cavity and organs before exiting the other side of his body.

Hesebeck, the other surviving victim at Lakeview, was listed in stable condition today after being shot in the shoulder and arm. His wounds did "not involve any vital structures," Koob said.

A third man, Terry Willers, was being treated at Marshfield Clinic for a gunshot wound to his neck and shoulder. Willers had some "bony injuries," Koob said, but reported that the staff in Marshfield said he was "doing fine" today.

Hospital president and CEO Ned Wolf was generous with praise for the emergency room staff today.

"Our folks did an admirable job," Wolf said. He noted that the hospital had procedures in place to deal with massive trauma, and to transport patients such as Willers to other facilities.

The hospital was put into lockdown overnight "to ensure that the families weren't overwhelmed by well-wishers and others who were concerned," Wolf said. Barron County Sheriff Tom Richie said the victims were all "well-known, well-respected members of our community."

Authorities planned to release the names of the five people killed in the shootings at a press conference scheduled for early this afternoon
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