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Old 10-27-2009, 12:25 PM   #1
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just wondering, what was the import competition for pontiac? i know buick was the domestic competition but what is the import?
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Holdon has some nice cars, the GTO is a Holdon Monaro with a few minor changes which is basically Ponitac in Australia, most other performance imports are higher end with luxery
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very true, i deff agree with you on the holdon, that barthurst * or how ever u spell it is deff equal to the gto
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All of them LOL
In terms of the smaller models, what killed Pontiac and almost Chevy ( Lets remember the final verdict on "Government Motors" is still out, and not looking good by a long shot) Neither could produce a small car with style, price, and dependability that wasnt perceived as an "economy car".

In terms of the Bonneville (full size) price was a huge issue. Models? In early 2006 I decided the 2005 LaCrosse I bought wasnt big enough for me or my needs. I was looking at the Camry, Galant, and especially the Avalon. To be frank, I would never have considered my GXP at the MSRP of $39,800. What sealed the Bonne deal was getting it showroom fresh for $10,500 off and the 7/70 GMPP added. The economy boomed late 80'*/early90'*. And the SUV and big Truck came and went. Detroit saw nice profits, and gave it all away to vendors and employees in a pace that couldnt be maintained even without the economy falling and the "big" trend falling flat. Lets consider the fact Toyota and Honda remained solvent and paid dividends even while retooling and adapting. GM still doesnt get it, and I dont believe they can become solvent again, and wonder how far the Government will extend throwing more money on a fire that wont go out.
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I wouldn't say Buick or Holden are "competition"...they are made/owned/partnered with GM.

I'd say Pontiac'* domestic competion is Lincoln/Mercury and Chrysler.

I wouldn't know who to say is the import competition.
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yea i deff agree with you on the huge price tag for the pontiacs, i mean back in like 93 when my bonnie was brand new, i think, please correct me if im wrong, that the ssei fully loaded was about 32000, and that was 17 years ago, so its deff gotta be more like 40k today, i mean the bonneville will never die, we know that now, but back then i think it would be a tough sell, yea and ur gxp is a beautiful car, dont get me wrong, but it dosent look like a 40k$ car as is the 3 series for bmw and some 5 series
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In 92 and the redesign etc the commercials are geared toward gaining the market from Lexus and BMW.
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