Cell Phone signal improver
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I agree, Nokia does use some cheap components. But, my phone has held up well, and it works very well on weak signals, but my battery life sucks because of the weak signals.
BonneMeMN: do you think I should go lower? perhaps with a 1 amp? realize this is designed for audio, but I don't see why it couldn't be used for other things. Because its just a homemade amp.
-justin
BonneMeMN: do you think I should go lower? perhaps with a 1 amp? realize this is designed for audio, but I don't see why it couldn't be used for other things. Because its just a homemade amp.
-justin
Originally Posted by Phish
Another side note, if you have a custom face plate or some kind of cell phone protector such as a leather or neoprene case, take it off. The original face plate was designed to work best with your phone and many custom face plate will hurt signal strength.
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I already have that. I still get horrible battery life. I still want the signal that nobody has. I thought that would fix it a long time ago, but it only have me a few more hours of life [this was direct from nokia].
-justin
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Pendin on your amplifier.. you'll need to ensure a few things with it
a.) will it cover 800 Mhz and 1.9 ???
b.) you need no more then 3 watts.. if you need something more then that you might as well get a satelite phone since you're in the middle of South Africa (reception wise)
c.) Will the amplifiers be bi-directional? No point able to transmit and have someone hear you when you can't hear them
d
Will your amplifier be digital compatible. boostin digital and analog signal isn't the same
e.) Is there an attuenator on it.. the last thing you need is drive near the with 5 watt+ unit fryin overloading out the site for your area and killin everyones phone in your area
f.) you will still need an antenna
Easiest route is I havne't looked into your phone, but if it has an antenna jack on the back of it.. you can see if you can find the adapter for it and either build your own mag mount antenna or buy one. A Mag Mount antenna with 3db gain will net you more then enough signal providing there'* signal in that location and the location of your antenna. (i.e. being in a gully you're more then likely not goign to have signal no matter wat unless you build your own tower for the antenna )
a.) will it cover 800 Mhz and 1.9 ???
b.) you need no more then 3 watts.. if you need something more then that you might as well get a satelite phone since you're in the middle of South Africa (reception wise)
c.) Will the amplifiers be bi-directional? No point able to transmit and have someone hear you when you can't hear them
d
Will your amplifier be digital compatible. boostin digital and analog signal isn't the samee.) Is there an attuenator on it.. the last thing you need is drive near the with 5 watt+ unit fryin overloading out the site for your area and killin everyones phone in your area
f.) you will still need an antenna
Easiest route is I havne't looked into your phone, but if it has an antenna jack on the back of it.. you can see if you can find the adapter for it and either build your own mag mount antenna or buy one. A Mag Mount antenna with 3db gain will net you more then enough signal providing there'* signal in that location and the location of your antenna. (i.e. being in a gully you're more then likely not goign to have signal no matter wat unless you build your own tower for the antenna )
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okay, the amp, I have no clue if its analog, or digital, but if it was digital, would it need any special "modules" to have it do that? because I thought it was only dependant upon the signal it is recieving.
The bi-directional, I don't know, what would make it bi-directional?
How many watts would I need to suck out everyone else'* signal? That would be awesome to have my phone have full reception, but nobody else get it!
. Is there any wattage limit on my phone? Could me sending in 15 watts blow something up on the phone? or is it just as big and I can go?
As I was doing a little more info on the phone, I came across a little article which states that all phones have a signal booster, since I don't have the schematics for my phone, I don't know if this is true or not, but if it is, should I remove it? If I don't remove it, but it has one, should I add the amp, before, or after this "booster"?
I have no clue what an attuenator is.. but I could care less about the other people.. unless sprint can track who'* using up more/less wattage? Which I highly doubt, but I think hardware wise it would be possible? or is it only one set range which is sent from the towers to our indivdual phones?
I will do some more research on the operating frequency of those amps. And if they don't run in that frequency, I will see what may or may not be adjustable.
Now, the adjustable capacitors, could I perhaps use something of the same principle to control how much wattage the amp lets through? something like a gain control, with an off button [free flowing w/o extra amp], and step one 10%, step two 20%, and so on?
-justin
The bi-directional, I don't know, what would make it bi-directional?
How many watts would I need to suck out everyone else'* signal? That would be awesome to have my phone have full reception, but nobody else get it!
As I was doing a little more info on the phone, I came across a little article which states that all phones have a signal booster, since I don't have the schematics for my phone, I don't know if this is true or not, but if it is, should I remove it? If I don't remove it, but it has one, should I add the amp, before, or after this "booster"?
I have no clue what an attuenator is.. but I could care less about the other people.. unless sprint can track who'* using up more/less wattage? Which I highly doubt, but I think hardware wise it would be possible? or is it only one set range which is sent from the towers to our indivdual phones?
I will do some more research on the operating frequency of those amps. And if they don't run in that frequency, I will see what may or may not be adjustable.
Now, the adjustable capacitors, could I perhaps use something of the same principle to control how much wattage the amp lets through? something like a gain control, with an off button [free flowing w/o extra amp], and step one 10%, step two 20%, and so on?
-justin
Originally Posted by opensourceguy
okay, the amp, I have no clue if its analog, or digital, but if it was digital, would it need any special "modules" to have it do that? because I thought it was only dependant upon the signal it is recieving.
The bi-directional, I don't know, what would make it bi-directional?
How many watts would I need to suck out everyone else'* signal? That would be awesome to have my phone have full reception, but nobody else get it!
.
Is there any wattage limit on my phone? Could me sending in 15 watts blow something up on the phone? or is it just as big and I can go?
As I was doing a little more info on the phone, I came across a little article which states that all phones have a signal booster, since I don't have the schematics for my phone, I don't know if this is true or not, but if it is, should I remove it? If I don't remove it, but it has one, should I add the amp, before, or after this "booster"?
I have no clue what an attuenator is.. but I could care less about the other people.. unless sprint can track who'* using up more/less wattage? Which I highly doubt, but I think hardware wise it would be possible? or is it only one set range which is sent from the towers to our indivdual phones?
Best bet is to start with a good antenna.. it'* the cheapest. you'll jave have to see if you have an external antenna phone jack for your phone.
I will do some more research on the operating frequency of those amps. And if they don't run in that frequency, I will see what may or may not be adjustable.
Now, the adjustable capacitors, could I perhaps use something of the same principle to control how much wattage the amp lets through? something like a gain control, with an off button [free flowing w/o extra amp], and step one 10%, step two 20%, and so on?
Start with the antenna.. you may find that you might not even need an amp after
EDIT: FYI.. the amp on your phone will not exceed 0.4 watt if you're lucky.. you'll need a stand alone amplifier ( external amp to get higher wattage )
-justin[/quote]
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Okay, I am getting so close to this. They make antenna boosters for the home, where this module interfaces with the tower, then sends out the same frequency at a higher rate to phones within a certain range. I want something of the same principle, only in a smaller form factor, and one that doesn't need power.. or something that doesn't need 110 house current.
I know what you mean by bi-directional, I have found several specific amplifiers for this. I see where it differs.
I have to be careful with the amount I use, because of my mom being on the same plan [different phone + number], and if the signal decreases for her, and increases for me, she'll know something is up. Now, around here, the only good signal is 20 minutes away, and it doesn't make a big jump, it gradually increases, is that okay?
So, if I had more than 5 watt boost, could I be getting a signal in places I never got one? Or would the 5 watt be sufficiant?
I won't have access to the firmware, can I just hook up the amp after the amp already built in? or will that amp be worthless and doing it before not matter?
When you say they can't pinpoint my exact location, can they find my number? or any other self identifing code?
-justin
I know what you mean by bi-directional, I have found several specific amplifiers for this. I see where it differs.
I have to be careful with the amount I use, because of my mom being on the same plan [different phone + number], and if the signal decreases for her, and increases for me, she'll know something is up. Now, around here, the only good signal is 20 minutes away, and it doesn't make a big jump, it gradually increases, is that okay?
So, if I had more than 5 watt boost, could I be getting a signal in places I never got one? Or would the 5 watt be sufficiant?
I won't have access to the firmware, can I just hook up the amp after the amp already built in? or will that amp be worthless and doing it before not matter?
When you say they can't pinpoint my exact location, can they find my number? or any other self identifing code?
-justin
Originally Posted by opensourceguy
Okay, I am getting so close to this. They make antenna boosters for the home, where this module interfaces with the tower, then sends out the same frequency at a higher rate to phones within a certain range. I want something of the same principle, only in a smaller form factor, and one that doesn't need power.. or something that doesn't need 110 house current.
I have to be careful with the amount I use, because of my mom being on the same plan [different phone + number], and if the signal decreases for her, and increases for me, she'll know something is up. Now, around here, the only good signal is 20 minutes away, and it doesn't make a big jump, it gradually increases, is that okay?
So, if I had more than 5 watt boost, could I be getting a signal in places I never got one? Or would the 5 watt be sufficiant?
It will also depend on the original signal.. if it is blocked by some environment (building tree etc) and can't penetrate thru you won't have any signal period. It also depends on signal strength.. if it'* extremely weak even amplified won't help cause it amplifies the distortion and intereference also.
I won't have access to the firmware, can I just hook up the amp after the amp already built in? or will that amp be worthless and doing it before not matter?
When you say they can't pinpoint my exact location, can they find my number? or any other self identifing code?
Your best bet to start is with a whip antenna with DB gain.. Mag mount so it'* easier for you to carry to your car and or room. If that doesn't work.. then talk amplifying it.. why spend the money for all that amp and butchering if you don't have to.


