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Old 05-13-2006, 01:26 PM   #31
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Yeah but I suspect an H1 would have done alot better.
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Old 05-13-2006, 01:30 PM   #32
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Maybe this is getting a little off topic, but it just goes to show that the H1 was the ONLY Hummer (besides a Humvee) worthy of the name.
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Maybe this is getting a little off topic, but it just goes to show that the H1 was the ONLY Hummer (besides a Humvee) worthy of the name.

Im not even going to get into this, I don't think that is necessarily true but Im not going to start a war.


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Yeah but I suspect an H1 would have done alot better.
I would much rather have a vehicle that destroys itself to protect me than have one that like a vehicle from the 60s could slam into things and barely get damaged but have all the trauma forces forced onto the people in the car.
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Maybe this is getting a little off topic, but it just goes to show that the H1 was the ONLY Hummer (besides a Humvee) worthy of the name.
i agree completely. the only off roading an h2 or h3 can handle is backing ovr a curb or going down a gravel road.

the H1 is the ultimate offroad vehicle and will be sorely missed.
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Guys, the reality of the HMMV is that it was designed by AMGeneral as a military vehicle and is extraordinarily good at its job. The civilian HUMMER or H1 was a niche vehicle and never intended for the mainstream. It was intended for a few wealthy buyers and for certain utility uses for which a regular pickup was lacking in ability, i.e., the brush-fire packages, heavy-terrain rescue, etc... As such, it is beside the point whether it was a practical vehicle for everyday, around-town errand running., or even whether it was environmentally friendly AS an every-day mass-market vehicle.

The H2, on the other hand, was designed by GM to be a poseur, with little off-road usability, no utility packages, and extremely bad on-road handling, braking, and mileage, but with the appeal of the HUMMER name on it to attract the morons who can't tell the difference. Unfortunately, that kind of moron exists on BOTH sides of the enviro-political coin, and the H1 gets lumped in with the H2 when they start talking about it as an "enviromental offender". There simply aren't enough H1s out there to make any damn difference to the environment WHAT-SO-EVER, and another less-known fact is that, except for mileage and acceleration, the H1 OUT-PERFORMS THE H2 IN ALL ON- AND OFF-ROAD CAPACITIES!!!


However, I have read reviews in several off-roading magazines saying that the H3 is in fact a fairly good off-roader, sharing none of the failings that the H2 sufferred.
It has a full, four wheel independent suspension, with generous articulation, where the H2 had a stiff rear liveaxle. It out-does the H2, along with the Liberty, Cherokee, and Xterra, among others, for ground clearance. It'* designed off of the Trailblazer platform, but the redesign is so thorough that you'd be hard pressed to find many similarties in the running gear. I'll give it a chance and see how it does when it really hits the market.
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BTW, GXP Venom, not defending the H2 as a worthy vehicle, but look at the roof and doors of the H2 in that picture. The front end is entirely smashed, but the passenger compartment is almost untouched. That driver probably came out with only very minor injuries.
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Isn't the H2 built on a checy Avelance frame? thought i heard that somewhere...
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Well its actually the (Tahoe)/GMT800 frame but the Avalanche is built off of it.
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Old 05-13-2006, 08:11 PM   #39
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ah. cool
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to be fair, a poser is a poser, regardless wether its supposed to be one or not.
the h1 = poser.
the h2 = the posers horribly disfigured little brother
the h3 = the poser meets a small measure of practicality

i dont care what it was designed for. point is, the h1 should never have existed.we had the jeep, thats all was needed. the hummer will never be on par with a jeep.
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