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Old 08-01-2003, 03:35 AM   #1
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it seems for the past decade pontiac has not really changed the outlook (or inlook) of the bonne, I guess this is a very popular body style (has my vote) I wonder where the bonneville design is head'n too now? usually cars get re-designed every 3 to 5, and a total re-design (?# of years) My question is what do U think a new totally re-designed bonne would/sould look like? if any? Actually; I couldn't even think of nothin after seen'n this body style for so long,
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Well, whatever it looks like it better be available with the foglights on the inside like the current SLE & SSEi. Almost every car you see on the road has the foglights on the outside, so a Bonneville, with the centered fog lights, stands out, and in my opinion looks really cool like that. But I can't imagine what it would look like. I am just thinking maybe a more modern version of the same thing, if you change it too much, it just becomes a different car.
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Old 08-01-2003, 03:48 AM   #3
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I agree with U actually, U know the more they change it tho the more it'* gonna look different, over time tho I'd get used to it I just can't imagine the bonne look'n better than it already does, too bad the GXP doesn't have centered fogs oh well it'* still player!
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I think rwd would be nice, and maybe a lil more touring car appeal. I think they lost a lil style going from the 92-99 to 2k+. I absolutely love the rear quarter panels on my cars, especially above the wheel well itself. Subtle curves are nice too, like the trunks on the 90'* gen. I think keeping all fogs on the inside is nice. Angel eyes and HID should be standard, and Angel eye fogs maybe.... I think a bigger grill, and wider is nice, and the car should definetly be wider in proportion to the new ones.
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Probably GM Pontiac is going to be leaning on the new GXP design for the newer design of Bonnevilles.....larger grill nostrils(like the new Grand Prixs),foglights on the outer edges of the front bumper fascade[last-Gen Bonnevilles eventially went to the foglights on the outer edge of the front bumper before they redesigned the Bonnevilles,....just like they did to the last of the Firebird Trans Ams],.......really looks like GM 'hit a home run' on the New-Gen Bonneville design (IMO,the best looking new car design of any GM car.......new Grand Prixs look like ***,to me.....and the Monte Carlos,...and the 'chunky/boxy-looking'Chevy Impalas,...and the 'batmobile' Grand Ams,as well),I think that GM will stay a Long time with the design(like they did for 7 years with the '97-'03 Grand Prix'*)......
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That'* a great question. One that I'd be more than happy to overanalyze for you.

Remember the 50'*, aircraft inspired fins and aerodynamic shapes? Well the auto industry is still being influenced by aircraft. Except the definition of aerodynamic no longer conjures up images of F-4 Phantoms, F-14 Tomcats & space shuttles. Today'* definition of aerodynamic means Stealth. And Stealth means 45-degree angles, sharp corners and a generally more polygonal design. I think the new GPX offers hints of this. A more obvious example is the new Caddy CTS.

Think about who'* going to be in the market for new luxury cars too. It'll be the kids that grew up watching Transformers and Japanese animation. And to them technology means 32-bit, polygonal videogames like the original Playstation. To them the new Chevy Avalanche and the Pontiac Aztek may actually look cool.

I'll further speculate that the 4-door sedan as we know it today will totally change 10 years from now. SUVs and "cross-over" vehicles will dominate more and more. People will still want big cars, they'll just want more cargo/utility space than a tiny, little trunk has to offer. I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing 4-door sedans with hatchbacks again. And rear spoilers will definitely be dead.

Personally I'd love to see american automakers stop caring about what the Japanese and Europeans do and go back to their own roots and rich history. I'd love to see the fins of the 50'* make a comeback. And I think they could comeback and still be tasteful. I love where Chrysler drew their inspiration from for their last decade of new car designs. PT Cruiser, Prowler, and their Dodge trucks are all very modern and very American-looking. I guarantee you'll never see a Pt Cruiser "Eurosport."

So what will the new Bonneville'* look like? No spoilers. No plastic body-cladding. Lots of 45-degree angles. Maybe even a hidden hatchback or extended cargo/utility area. And I'd love to see a more refined interior that doesn't have so much plastic in it. And if I drop a wad of cash on a new luxury car I definitely don't want to see the same crappy, plastic Delco radio with big plastic ***** that a Chevy Cavalier has.

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yea, tha plastic in tha inside has to go! at least bring back tha fake wood grain; They should make them standard on SSEi oh, everybody doesn't like how wood grain looks.......

the bonneville is become'n the "NEW AGE" family car, I don't know any car that looks as "out there" as a bonne far as a family car(SLE and i). I always though them to be for more of a performace driver not a family car. they look to aggressive for that IMO.
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Pontiac news line has been going for the very aggressive streak and its great. The 92-99 bonney'* reminded me on classic american muscle cars. The rear fender lines just do it perfectly.

I think the new bonnevilles will continue to look, more and more like darth vader. Maybe have a darth vader edition for 2005 when the final star wars movie comes out?

I'm not ragging on the new style...darth vader is cool as hell.
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yea, tha plastic in tha inside has to go! at least bring back tha fake wood grain; They should make them standard on SSEi oh, everybody doesn't like how wood grain looks.......

the bonneville is become'n the "NEW AGE" family car, I don't know any car that looks as "out there" as a bonne far as a family car(SLE and i). I always though them to be for more of a performace driver not a family car. they look to aggressive for that IMO.

I remember in 01 at the Auto Show I saw the GXP for the first time and sat in it. The show car had grey lookin wood grain. The production car might be different though.
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mista, I am not sure where you were comming from...in 2000 they did a total remake of the Bonneville. That is only four years old (the 2000 model was introduced in 1999). But I would have to say that they will probably start to make them look more like the new GTO, a nice car in it'* own right, but with styling.

Take a close look at the old Bonnevilles (starting in 1957), They change with the times. The 1992-1999 body style (my favorite) has been subjected to a love/hate relationship due to it'* "machoismo" styling with the body cladding and red interior lighting. Me--I love it, but the above comment was something that I read in a publication (not verbatum). Unfortunatley this is a premium car that will not attract the sales like the GP or the GA. This means that intead of listening to the sales #'*, GM will listen to feedback of car critics. Since most people would rather complain to the manufacturer about a car then praise it, GM is going to make changes based on what they hear.

Silver has a point, we are reaching a changing of the guard in consumers. The current market is made up of the outgoing "Egg" car buyers and the incomming "Transformer" car buyers. GM will follow the $$$.

With the GTO, GM turned their back to the largest potential market--those who bought them in the '60'* and '70'*--who were looking for nostalgia and have the money--so they could market to the tuner enthusiast. Why? Because the older generation is getting older and will die out in a decade or two, whereas the tuner generation is just now starting to come of age (graduate from college with degrees and a substantial paycheck--and a few more years to live). This is a huge gamble on GM'* part.

My point? If you like someting, you must be heard by the powers that be. The Bonneville will either transform into something totally different that what we see in our driveways, or it will be put on a shelf (like the Firebird and Camaro) for a better day.

Off topic, I have heard a lot of negative feedback on this forum about the MC and the new GP. I personally see throwbacks to the 1973 restyle of the Monte Carlo--I like it. As for the GP, it is freash and clean. I think it looks good. For a while it was getting difficult to tell the GA apart from the GP.
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