an all-wheel drive pontiac? what the heck did i see!
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Originally Posted by dbtk2
Yes. there is a guy on the Turbo Grand Prix forum that has two AWD Pontiac 6000 STE'*. They are loaded and have all kinds of crazy gadgets. IIRC there were something like 1200 of them built. As for the SE'*, I'm sure those are MUCH more common.
As for the implication that 6000s were a "bad" idea.....I suggest you read up on some Pontiac history. They may not seem like much today, but the introdution of the 6000 STE in '83 is LITERALLY accredited with single handedly bringing Pontiac back from the dead. Pontiac even concurred with this in no uncertain terms on their 75th anniversary website when it was up. It was the first offering in a long time from this GM division to give a decent amount of performance (for its time), and luxury. Enough so that it actually made Car & Driver'* top 10 3 years out of its 9 year run for holding its own against the likes of its much more expensive import competitors. Pontiac is now trying to accomplish the same thing with the G6. In fact, there was an article written not too long ago comparing the G6 to the STE. Hmmmm......6G(6000), G6. I wonder......J/K. But let'* give credit where credit is due. The STE literally saved Pontiac from the financial catastrophy it was in at the time. In other words, if it weren't for the STE, you may not be driving your Pontiacs today.
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Isn't it interesting. Just about the time you think you know a car maker and most of the cars they put out. Something catches your attention and you learn all about a one off that they did and then you say. Those are cool...I'd like one too!
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I almost bought a 6000 STE back in 1987. They were great cars for thier time. Not bad looking (Very similar to the Bonne), lots of gizmos, and a very nice ride. I don't remember the one I was looking at having AWD, but it did have the Self Leveling Suspension. Sweet car!
The only thing that stopped me was that I was about to leave for Korea and noone would finance me. Probably a good thing, tho, since my wife at the time totalled the car we did have while I was gone.
There was a thread here somewhere. I think I can find it again......
The only thing that stopped me was that I was about to leave for Korea and noone would finance me. Probably a good thing, tho, since my wife at the time totalled the car we did have while I was gone.
There was a thread here somewhere. I think I can find it again......
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My parents had several Pontiac 6000 when I was a kid . My father said it was a good car for the day. I remeber the digital dashboards and all the other gizmos it came with. i wish the still afford digital dashboards today :(
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i know it'* not an STE or and SE..but my uncle had a 6000 safari..you know the wagon..2.8 sister car to the Chevy Celebrity wagon....and believe it or not ..that was a nice car....i honestly wouldn't have minded driving it myself. it was an 87' or an 88'
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::Please exuse this story if you are a Pontiac 6000 fan::
Back when I was 15 my cousin had a 6000 STE AWD, I remember thinking it was a pretty sweet looking car, and it handled really well, but we had fun in that thing. It was used for more back gravel road rally racing and off roading than any car ive ever been in. I remember once there was a road closed because it was flooded over, so of course my 17 yo cousin egged on by me (15 yo) decided to see how deep the water was. When the water started coming in the bottom of the doors he decided it was too deep and we needed to back out of it. So he throws it in reverse and starts to back out, when all of the sudden the passenger side (MY SIDE!!) of the car starts sinking. Im like oh sh*t he just backed off the road and into the ditch beside the road...all UNDER WATER water at this point was up to the bottom of the windows. So what does he do but turn the steering wheel and hit the throttle, pulling us right back out onto the pavement and then back on to dry ground. AWD rules! But sorry to say that 6000 was driven into the ground within a few months of that incident. Im pretty sure the thing blew up. But it was pretty torn up anyway, after letting a kid have it. He then proceded to wreck 3 pickups and another 2 cars.......never went to jail either....lucky bastard
Back when I was 15 my cousin had a 6000 STE AWD, I remember thinking it was a pretty sweet looking car, and it handled really well, but we had fun in that thing. It was used for more back gravel road rally racing and off roading than any car ive ever been in. I remember once there was a road closed because it was flooded over, so of course my 17 yo cousin egged on by me (15 yo) decided to see how deep the water was. When the water started coming in the bottom of the doors he decided it was too deep and we needed to back out of it. So he throws it in reverse and starts to back out, when all of the sudden the passenger side (MY SIDE!!) of the car starts sinking. Im like oh sh*t he just backed off the road and into the ditch beside the road...all UNDER WATER water at this point was up to the bottom of the windows. So what does he do but turn the steering wheel and hit the throttle, pulling us right back out onto the pavement and then back on to dry ground. AWD rules! But sorry to say that 6000 was driven into the ground within a few months of that incident. Im pretty sure the thing blew up. But it was pretty torn up anyway, after letting a kid have it. He then proceded to wreck 3 pickups and another 2 cars.......never went to jail either....lucky bastard
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Originally Posted by BillBost37
Isn't it interesting. Just about the time you think you know a car maker and most of the cars they put out. Something catches your attention and you learn all about a one off that they did and then you say. Those are cool...I'd like one too!
Originally Posted by OLDsman105
My parents had several Pontiac 6000 when I was a kid . My father said it was a good car for the day. I remeber the digital dashboards and all the other gizmos it came with. i wish the still afford digital dashboards today :(
That'* only part of it. The rest of the gauges are to the right of the DIC. It'* pretty fun. Even today, the interior of my AWDs continues to draw comments like "DUDE....WTF??"
BonEvil: I was trying to come up with some more eloquent words, but.....your cousin should be shot, plain and simple. I mean....if it were an ordinary, run of the mill 6000, that would be another story. But an AWD STE??? Why do cars like this end up in the hands of people like that?