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Old 02-13-2010, 07:28 PM   #1
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Default 100% electric Nissan Leaf!

I was watching a show on Hulu and their 30 second commercial came on, this one was about a car, I rolled my eyes at first, until I heard "100% electric", I did a double take. Did some research and it is.. it'* completely 100% electric. Gets you about 100 miles on a charge and research shows that that'* all a person needs in a day.

Congratulations Nissan! I'm proud (although I hate you) of you.

I just wonder how much it will cost...
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Good for going to work and back, perhaps run around town. But most people take longer trips. Then what? have a second car laying around waiting?
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Good for going to work and back, perhaps run around town. But most people take longer trips. Then what? have a second car laying around waiting?
You keep a moped in the trunk for a spare!
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You keep a moped in the trunk for a spare!
Electric,..... Of Course.
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Think about this:

You buy this Nissan Leaf (or any other 100% electric car), take it to work, go to the grocery store, visit some close friends, or whatever is within the 100 mile mark. Then on that special occasion...




















YOU BRING THE BONNEVILLE OUT!!
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How many miles will you have to drive to save enough gas to pay for the extra car, plus the extra insurance and maintenance on that car not to mention the higher electric bills. These things never work out.
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Just wait until you have to replace the multi-thousand dollar battery
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Well if they actually released decent solar panels that aren't absolute crap.
Solar/Wind/Geothermal/Wave Power
This discussion could get immensely, ridiculously, absurdly big.

In all honesty a Nissan Leaf when you're off the grid would be a massive step forward. Which is what we all want.

"With the newly unveiled Nissan LEAF, the company seems confident that the traditional nemesis of electric vehicles, lack of a battery with enough energy density to compete with liquid fuels, has finally been overcome. Or if not overcome, at least wrestled to the ground with sufficient authority that the tide is now turning in favor of electric cars. Like Toyota and GM with their next generation of hybrids and Tesla with it'* up-market EVs, Nissan is betting that Lithium Ion battery chemistry is now ready for prime-time.

The Leaf will be powered by an array of thin, laminated Lithium Ion cells housed in a flat assembly beneath the floor. The forty-eight separate modules, each consisting of four magazine-sized sub-units, will be able to deliver a maximum of 90 KW to the electric motors, with a total storage capacity of 24 KWH. No mention has been made of any accommodation for "swapping out" batteries (as in the system being pioneered by Better Place, which actually uses a Nissan vehicle in their promotional video). Instead, the LEAF'* battery is intended to accept several rapid charging scenarios including a 50KW "fast charge" which gives 80% charge in thirty minutes, or a five minute fast-charge which delivers an additional 31 miles of range. These rapid recharge modes will require a special three-phase charger, which at $45,000.00 per unit, is most likely to be owned by commercial or governmental entities in distributed charging stations. In cities which do have rapid charging stations available, the LEAF'* Nav/sat GPS screen will be able to direct drivers to the nearest recharge locations, as well as generally indicating "reachable area" based on the battery'* level of charge. Homeowners who don't have a spare fifty-thousand kicking around may prefer to have a common, single-phase 220v hook-up wired into their garages, allowing full recharge in just under eight hours. Alternatively, a standard American 110v wall outlet will also do the job, but will require almost twice as much time.
At 440 pounds, the battery pack isn't light, but thanks to weight savings created by the car'* full EV architecture the battery will provide enough power for the LEAF to achieve a top speed of 87 mph and a range estimated by Nissan at 100 miles (in US LA4 mode). Chief executive Carlos Ghosn has suggested that the battery may be leased by customers rather than purchased outright, as a way of keeping the price of the car on par with the gas-powered competition.
Nissan battery-plant ventures are going forward in Sunderland, England, Kanagawa prefecture, Japan, and Smyrna Tennessee , with the first two alone expected to produce 125,000 units a year by 2011, so it'* clear that Nissan is serious about both being in the battery business and about the future of the electric car."


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bahahahahaha!!!!
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This car is still so far off from the public, it'* ridiculous. You go to the Nissan site and they can't even answer most of the "common questions" a person has about it. Including price and performance specs. The uber expensive battery (So expensive Toyota nixed them in their Hybrids) has a tested life of 5 years vs 10 for Toyotos metal hydride. The latest News/Attention is pure Nissan/Renault publicity "Spin" to satiate some weary Munincipalities (Including San Francisco~San Diego~ Tuscon/Phoenix) that have invested heavily into Nissan'* Dream-selling. What they have is a concept without real guts. A projected 100 miles without extra passenger load or using heat/air conditioning. And a charge time of 16-18 hours unless you hard wire an expensive optional 220 volt charging system into a garage you hopefully have.
As for expense, Electricity in most areas cost more to generate/purchase than using gas. This whole concept isn't economically feasible and pay for/bought into by the same folks with money that blindly follow Al Gore. the ecological nightmare of dealing with Millions of spent Lithium cells if this idea really took off is mind boggling as well. Who'* going to pony up the money as they start to cog the wrecking yards. You and me, Joe Taxpayers, who never even participated in the scam.
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