GMC/Chevrolet Truck/SUV When starting new posts, please specify YEAR, MAKE, MODEL, ENGINE type, and whatever modifications you have made.

1989 gmc s15 v6 4.3 - ecm?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-28-2012, 12:30 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
jwfirebird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: western,ny state
Posts: 9,616
Received 579 Likes on 497 Posts
jwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond repute
Default

that just means something is causing the timing to go all over the place. if it was my truck i guess if the wiring checks out i would buy one knock sensor replace one and see, if not put the original one in the other spot and see. if it isnt either it can be the reluctor in the dist.
Old 04-28-2012, 05:56 PM
  #12  
Junior Member
Posts like a V-Tak
 
greg409's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: west of chicago, il
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
greg409 is on a distinguished road
Default

I've read around and read 4300 ohm resistance on a '94 gm and 8200 ohm on an ls1,

I think if you ohmed yours and had 0 ohms, it'* bad, or if it'* got over 10k, it'* bad.

Might be something a GM tech can tell you.

luck,greg
Old 04-28-2012, 06:11 PM
  #13  
Junior Member
Posts like a V-Tak
 
greg409's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: west of chicago, il
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
greg409 is on a distinguished road
Default

Jeff, you may want to read this Q&A in it'* entirety, Might help.

http://www.answergem.com/cars/q/4697...ault-code-43-t

luck,greg
Old 04-29-2012, 02:06 PM
  #14  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
jeffm5690's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
jeffm5690 is on a distinguished road
Angry Getting Closer (I think)

I am getting somewhere and I need a little help. I replaced the IAC and it seems to have helped. The one thing I can tell for certain is the vacuum line that goes to this "port" on the engine just to the left and in front of the TBI when connected, the truck runs like crap and stalls. When disconnected it runs at a steady idle. Any ideas what that "sensor" or "switch" is? I can't find it in my Service Manuals and have no idea what it means if it runs better disconnected. See the picture below:
Attached Thumbnails 1989 gmc s15 v6 4.3 - ecm?-photo.jpg  
Old 04-29-2012, 04:21 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
jwfirebird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: western,ny state
Posts: 9,616
Received 579 Likes on 497 Posts
jwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond repute
Default

the map sensor is the sensor upper left in the pic. if there was something wrong with it it would run bad when plugged in but good when unplugged because the computer goes off programed tables. it may be bad and causing you issues but i dont think it would cause the code you are getting. maybe you have two problems
Old 04-29-2012, 04:34 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
jwfirebird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: western,ny state
Posts: 9,616
Received 579 Likes on 497 Posts
jwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond repute
Default

well reading into it it seems running poorly can cause the noise to trigger the knock sensors so maybe thats it.
Old 04-29-2012, 10:46 PM
  #17  
Junior Member
Posts like a V-Tak
 
greg409's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: west of chicago, il
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
greg409 is on a distinguished road
Default

Talk about a wild goose chase! - L (not out loud)

The MAP (manifold absolute pressure) preceded the Mass air flow, From my understanding, it measures intake vacuums relationship to air density, thereby adjusting the fuel mix.

From your sound clip, you're going into a lean or rich stumble, then back out - I guess the could put you into knock area.

The only other bad map I've seen was an old '85 reliant K

I'm cheap, I'd buy one (not mount it) and try it

luck,greg
Old 05-06-2012, 07:39 PM
  #18  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
jeffm5690's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
jeffm5690 is on a distinguished road
Default Help

So - here I am again... Got all codes cleared. If I unplug the MAP from the circuit, the truck idles fine. I replaced the MAP and it is the same. I am at a complete loss. What would cause the truck to run much better with the MAP disconnected when it is still a good part???
Old 05-06-2012, 08:10 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
jwfirebird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: western,ny state
Posts: 9,616
Received 579 Likes on 497 Posts
jwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond reputejwfirebird has a reputation beyond repute
Default

the thing must be running on the programed tables with it unplugged masking what ever is wrong. the only thing i can think of is spraying around those fittings on the vacuum line with some carb cleaner if the pitch changes they are leaking
Old 05-07-2012, 02:48 PM
  #20  
Junior Member
Posts like a V-Tak
 
greg409's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: west of chicago, il
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
greg409 is on a distinguished road
Default

Jeff, I agree with jwfirebird, you may also consider that the ecm might need to "relearn" the MAP parameters if it'* been running w/o it.

There'* a million (+/-) methods of "drive cycles) for the "relearn" process, but, I'd drive it around, various speeds, several re-starts, warmed up, and see if it improves.

If not, I'd ohm test the map (engine off) while sucking on the vacuum connection,
(should change with changes in vacuum)

I don't know the values that your looking for, but this may indicate if MAP works at all.

As you step on the gas, loss of vacuum richens the fuel mix

The sound clip almost sounds like the diaphram in the MAP leaks, causing the mix to fluctuate up & down.

A new MAP is $75 or so, I hate experimenting.

luck,greg
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
titan0212
GMC/Chevrolet Truck/SUV
10
01-08-2016 08:48 PM
wes104
GMC/Chevrolet Truck/SUV
7
06-16-2014 10:36 PM
wes104
GMC/Chevrolet Truck/SUV
8
04-07-2014 09:57 PM
billha
1992-1999
1
09-02-2002 11:44 AM
billha
1992-1999
1
12-31-1969 07:00 PM



Quick Reply: 1989 gmc s15 v6 4.3 - ecm?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:00 AM.