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Old 11-21-2002, 03:19 AM   #1
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Who has the quickest bonneville and what all have you done to it? Thanks
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This is actually pretty easy.
Scott Cook (BadSSEi) is the fastest. 12.020 1/4 @ 115.29
He'* heavily modified to the extreme (or intense). Here'* his site. He'* the second car down, I think: http://www.intense-racing.com/ (look under sponsored cars for Scott Cook) He has ALL the goodies, and has spent thousands.

Second is TurtleSSE. He'* non-supercharged is is running 0-60 in 5.3, and 13.20 @ 118 for the 1/4 mile. He'* a nut. He'* had his car over 150mph. He'* running oversized valves, a custom cam, Jet Stage 2 chip, NOS, heads worked over, and on and on......

Third I think would be Complinitor. His last slip came in at 14.65 @ 97.3 MPH in a 1998 Pontiac Bonneville SSE NA (Normally Aspirated, non supercharged also). Here'* a list of his mods:
-ZZP GT rockers
-Hi-perf titanium-aluminum alloy pushrods
-Random Tech 9100 Hi-Flow Cat - stock muffler - no resonator on my car
-Wrapped stock exhaust manifolds - switching to ZZP ported manifolds with my winnings!!
-Ported and Polished heads--5% oversized intake and 3% oversized exhaust valves - I know I'm losing here without the ported manifolds, but not much longer!
-Open Flow 9" K&N cone with short 3" into TB
-No spare or jack (weight)...Riding on Goodyear Eagle Runflats
-Custom upper plenum insert - replaced plastic insert with aluminum unit...flow increased by 150 CFM
-Adjustable fuel pressure regulator - up 5% from stock at race time[i/]


I think I'm 4th, as an honorable mention, at 0-60 in 6.95, 1/4 mile in 14.92 @ 94mph. That was yesterday. If I'm wrong, somebody stomp on me. I've hit 142, and backed out. Turtle is the top-end king, and I'm not gonna be the cause of someone getting killed by pushing it higher. My sig shows my mods. I owe most of what I've done to this club.

99bonnevilleSE fits in here somewhere, probably in the number 2 or 3 spot, which would move me down to 5. Watch for him to move up, but he'* not much into bragging rights, even though he should be. Maybe this post will be enough to drag him out.

What we all have in common is the big three for starters. Intake, Exhaust, and 180 thermostat. Then go from there. You'll find alot of good information in the Techinfo section, the link at the top of the page. Watch out if you ask a question. The average wait time for an answer is rather short!
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I'm sure there are a lot of cars inbetween those too, that we just don't know about.
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Post 'em! I don't mind being bumped down the list, my car is OLD!

Maybe I'll order that supercharger pulley today.......and some stickers......
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Ya, those stickers will add at least 20 more HP at the ground.
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Will,
I actually have decided to stay away from the ZZP manifolds. I took mine off after talking to Zoomer and did exactly what they do....I got out my Dremel and did the work myself. I haven't felt that much of an increase, but the sound is now a bit cleaner and the flow at the tail is up by 10%. Should be good for another tenth or so in the spring!

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After seeing all the posts in the other section on the Centrifugal SC'*, I did some research and found a really good source. I am trying to get two of these (rather inexpensive, I expect, without any mounting gear). My intention is to do a custom manifold that can handle twin 50mm TB'* and run two of these. They are from Z Engineering http://www.z-engineering-uk.com/zr01.htm. The do SC'* for VW'* and the like. The Z01 SC can put out about 7PSI per unit without any cooling system. We'll see if the wife allows me to get creative!
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I'll get ready to move you up the list!
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I guess it just a twisted thing we get cars and make them our own R&D projects. one day soon she will be in the 12`* but i`ll have to wait till spring ....hmmmmmm all winter to rebuild and rethink........R&D time it`* just fun building ...makin` a big Girl who can handle and go fast when you want her to.... must be a male thing...........Alpha Dog...to make your car the best you can ....have many ideas on paper on more mods to motor and handling so only time will tell so will money ..but thats not a worry but always drive with caution (never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly ) never drive beyond your talent or your cars`
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Will,
I actually have decided to stay away from the ZZP manifolds. I took mine off after talking to Zoomer and did exactly what they do....I got out my Dremel and did the work myself. I haven't felt that much of an increase, but the sound is now a bit cleaner and the flow at the tail is up by 10%. Should be good for another tenth or so in the spring!

BTW:
After seeing all the posts in the other section on the Centrifugal SC'*, I did some research and found a really good source. I am trying to get two of these (rather inexpensive, I expect, without any mounting gear). My intention is to do a custom manifold that can handle twin 50mm TB'* and run two of these. They are from Z Engineering http://www.z-engineering-uk.com/zr01.htm. The do SC'* for VW'* and the like. The Z01 SC can put out about 7PSI per unit without any cooling system. We'll see if the wife allows me to get creative!
That Z01 SC is meant for no more than a 3.0L engine. You need to get the Z02 to make it work. We also did the exhaust manifolds on my car but differntly. If ZZP just took a dremel then they kinda suck in the whole R&D for that, We actually added material, made the turn smoother and the port larger. I have noticed a huge *** difference. We are making Ported Exhaust Manifolds which will be a cheaper alternative to our headers.

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That Z01 SC is meant for no more than a 3.0L engine. You need to get the Z02 to make it work. We also did the exhaust manifolds on my car but differntly. If ZZP just took a dremel then they kinda suck in the whole R&D for that, We actually added material, made the turn smoother and the port larger. I have noticed a huge *** difference. We are making Ported Exhaust Manifolds which will be a cheaper alternative to our headers.

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They also added material for strengthening. Opening up the ports and cleaning out the turns can be done with the Dremel flex tool. All I did was clean up the inside and opened up the ports to more closely match the manifolds. I will eventually switch to your manifolds when I get the test motor to that point. I'm not going any further with my daily driver than I already have...Sorry guys, but you'll have to wait until next summer/early fall for the REAL hotrod to happen!
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