Well they all seem to be breaking with about HALF the rust mine has, how come mine is still together?

Here are some updated pics as of 10 mins ago

I would not feel safe driving that car.


I'd say drive it till the subframe falls out or call a wrecker.

Most of the rust around your subframe mounts (expect for that gaping hole) appear to be more surface rust at this point than deep rust.

Ok this right here....

This would make me not want to drive the car anymore.

John, i would save as much $ as you can. sell this car and buy something with Less rust. even if its not really any better then your car but as long as it doesn't have Bad rust or Holes .

^ I'm with this guy.

I agree for the most part. Surprisingly, even though you have that massive hole in the floor, the other areas appear to have more surface rust. But I wouldn't go by just appearance (we can agree the appearance is BAD). When I did my POR-15 work, everything looked like surface rust. The subframe itself was (IS) in great shape. But you know what happened to me. The mount/unibody closest to that big hole is definitely the worst. If any part broke off it would be that one first IMO.

POR-15 will definitely prevent most of those areas from getting worse. But the rust on the body of the car along the bottom edges of the doors/rocker panels, and that massive hole, would not make doing the POR-15 worth it if it were my car.

The thin metal plate around the mount on the left in the pic below is breaking as you can see. That'* part of the square plate holding that mount in. The mount that broke off for me had the same signs. But it'* hard to predict what will happen and when. Yours doesn't look THAT bad.

Yeah, the only GOOD thing that cab be drawn from this is that yours and peter g'* subframes pulled out because of rust from the inside out caused by pooling salt water. MINE on the otherhand, always stays dry because it has an open hole, so the rust has not gotten much worse for the past few years. But yeah, I see that the secondary rear mounts, the good ones are slowly going bad...and theres not enough metal to support the rears alone so when they go, the whole thing goes. I dont think i'm gonna POR 15 it, thats just TOO expensive for this car. I think i'll just sell it to whoever wants it. Someone can get some good use out of it before it fails.

POR-15 cannot fix rust, it merely helps seal metal off, is stronger than paint, to inhibit rust forming.

That mount is fucked. Most of the rear of the car is surface rust, the suspension looks to be half rust, half dirt (sway bar bushings don't rust lol). Door skins are starting to go pretty good, but that subframe mounting point doesn't have much in it...