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Old 11-06-2004, 05:17 PM   #11
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Use an offset box-end wrench on the bottom, or simply cut the old links out with a sawzall or torch.
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Old 11-06-2004, 05:19 PM   #12
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Vice grip!

We had to cut the ones in the back of mine, I used an angle grinder.... NOT FUN.
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Old 11-06-2004, 05:22 PM   #13
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Hey i'll be up in the cities tonight... Only what 3 hours away?

Working on brakes, interior stuff, etc...
A little over 2 hours to your parents place without much traffic. It'* only 1-1/2 to 1-3/4 to Gordy'* going 75. I'd come down there, but I have to get my these endlinks on, and change my 3800k old Mobil Semi Syn and Wix filter. I also am going to repaint my calipers and drums, and if I can get in the garage I'll maybe spend some time spraying the engine with Fast Orange, followed up by a rinse down with the pressure spray.

Good luck with the brakes, etc...
P.*. I'll give you a jingle about the seats here sometime this evening -never got the HR'* out. 3 efforts and I'm still stumped.
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Well, got the MOOG rear end-links in. What a piece of cake to install. I had them both done in under 20 minutes -that was jacking the car up, taking the wheels off removing old EL'*, installing new EL'*, throwing a fresh coat of chrome paint on the drums, reinstalling the wheels, and take it off the jack.
Went out for a 30 minute drive down the curviest road within 30 miles, and then I hit I-94 to West Union (4 miles each way) and all the noise and jolt I was feeling from the rear end is pretty much GONE!!!!
Now I can really feel the fronts, which I ordered Energy Poly'* through AutoZone, and hope to install them sometime this next week.
This awesome. Ever since I sold OBEB to Jay I wished the SSE had half the ride quality as the SLE. now it is damn close. I bet new Energy Suspension polyurethane end-links in the front should make it just as nice of a ride or better.
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Old 11-07-2004, 08:41 PM   #15
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The fronts will make a good diffrence.... You may have the plastic spacers like the newer GM cars have.... The Energy Suspension Poly end links will have the Metal spacers which will not give, and the New end links will be a bit firmer... You'll notice the diffrence quickly...
You'll notice your seats a lot more! The bolstering, amount of leather products applied... (slippery).

Just be carefull with one set done, my car drove funnny with just the front..
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Old 11-08-2004, 01:12 AM   #16
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Just be carefull with one set done, my car drove funnny with just the front..
Yeah, I notice how bad the front is now. Especially with having just had my rear wheels balanced last weekend. I'll be getting the fronts rebalanced too.
Also, just found my front brake pads are worn out -just started scraping the warning arm today -looks like I'll be doing ceramics which I should have done already for keeping the Chrome nice and shiney. Might get some slotted rotors too, but am also considering the same premium NAPA rotors I put on the SLE with ceramics.
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I Armorall'd my leather seats when I did the sway bars and endlinks.... Nobody could stay on their side of the car
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I installed all the enregy suspension componenents listed earlier. I noticed a few things.

1. I had a LOT more steering feedback. More like a sports car. The feeling of isolation was gone. I would equat it to a feeling of a C-4 Vettte sort of.

2. The car handled better in turns. Less body roll with much more steering wheel twitch
and jitter.

3. I gained a few dash rattles.

4. More bumpsteer.

Those poly links are a compromise. They worked great but added harshness.
I have never hit turn 2 at Sebring going 120 in my Bonny. I'm not sure if the compromise was worth it. This car will never turn in at 1g sideways. The mod sort of defeats the purpose of having a cushy American car. The feel was greatly magnified by my Magnetic steering .. or whatever its called. I'm not saying don't do it. I'm saying be aware of the compromise. It decreased the daily driver factor and increased the weekend warrior feel. It all depends on what you want. I'm saying the increased handling is not free. I ( 38 yrs old ) like the feel ... my Dad ( 66 yrs old ) did not.
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I've noticed the bumpsteer as well. I was actually going to post and see if anyone had any suggestions on countering that. I wonder if control arm bushings would help?

I think you're feeling the rattles because your struts high frequency valving are blown like mine, so instead of the struts soaking up a spiky hit, the bushings did.

The poly links are just a lil stiffer then the stockers, but the difference is they'll last longer.
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I'm thinking possibly struts would cure the bumpsteer.
I just finished the passenger side and couldn't resist taking it for a spin. I can definitely feel the stock bushings on the drivers side.
Going back out to finish the drivers side along with the drivers side ceramix pads and put some fresh Mobil Semi Syn highmileage formula oil and Wix filter in.
Will update when I get back in.
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