General GM Chat When starting new posts, please specify YEAR, MAKE, MODEL, ENGINE type, and whatever modifications you have made. Chat about all things GM (and related cars). Off-topic stuff should be in the Lounge, and all Model specific mechanical problems should be posted in the proper forum.

Some questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 04:05 PM
  #1  
cahilj's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
cahilj is on a distinguished road
Default Some questions

I don't actually own a Bonneville. I own a Cavalier. Hope you guys don't mind

I've swapped my front spindles with 93 Bonneville spindles in order to use the bigger brakes. The Cavalier bolt pattern is 5x100, and in order to use the 5 sets of wheels I have, I need to have a 5x100 pattern on the bearing. I have tossed around quite a few ideas, sleeving the Cavalier bearing to fit te Bonneville spindle (that died due to strength issues of cast vs machine steel and where the holes for the bearing would be), then I modified that idea to include a complete replacement outer surface of the spindle using the Bonneville bearing bolt holes for attachment (that isn't fully dead yet, but it will be soon, due to cost issues). So, my plan now is to have the Bonneville bearing re-drilled for 5x100.

This swap has been done by quite a few J body owners, but no one has ever tried to keep the 5x100 pattern. The only other mod needed is to swap the outer CV joint to the Bonneville piece. I will need to do that if I use the Bonneville bearing. I would like to have all the wear items replaceable (bearing, caliper, rotor etc) without custom work. (I realize there really is no way around re-drilling the rotors, no matter what route I take).

1) I have heard that a pre 91 H body bearing will bolt up to the 92+ spindle. Is this true? If so, it will be much cheaper, since I don't run ABS.

2) are the axles the same between <91 and 92+? (or at least the outer CV)

3) does anyone know of any cars that use the same outer CV, but have a 5x100 pattern? I've seen Celebritys listed as using the same axles as H bodies, and I'm pretty sure they have a 5x100 pattern.

4) are there any other calipers (besides the factory H body) that will work with the H body spindle? I've read a few posts in this site about W body spindles with F body calipers.

Thanks in advance! If anyone is interested in checking out my car, you can look me up on www.v6z24.com with the same username.
Reply
Old Sep 4, 2005 | 12:55 PM
  #2  
cahilj's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
cahilj is on a distinguished road
Default

Someone here has to know something...... :?

What forum should I ask in if no one can answer these questions?
Reply
Old Sep 4, 2005 | 01:13 PM
  #3  
Twister97's Avatar
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 5,177
Likes: 0
From: Pennsylvania
Twister97 is on a distinguished road
Default

Aint this overkill, by putting on a large sedans' brake setup onto a coupe? What is the purpose you guys do this? And, you probably want to ask this question in the lounge, since its a Bonneville part going on to a different vehicle, instead of a different vehicle part going on to a Bonneville.
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2005 | 10:14 PM
  #4  
cahilj's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
cahilj is on a distinguished road
Default

Its not really overkill, especially when you're road racing/auto-xing. Our factory brakes are 10.5", all the aftermarket "big brake" kits available are at least 11.5". Some of us just prefer to use factory parts instead of paying $1k+ for brakes.

Thanks for letting me know where to post!
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2005 | 10:22 PM
  #5  
LakevilleSSEi's Avatar
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 9,130
Likes: 0
From: Farmington, Minnesota =MWBF '05 SURVIVOR= =CEBF '06 SURVIVOR= =August '06 COTM=
LakevilleSSEi is on a distinguished road
Default

why don't you just run the bonne wheels and be done wit it?

Against the rules?
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2005 | 11:13 PM
  #6  
J Wikoff's Avatar
Senior Member
Certified Car Nut
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 12,433
Likes: 2
J Wikoff is on a distinguished road
Default

This is quasi-Bonneville, so I'll put it in "General Chat"

I think you are asking questions that few people here will know how to answer. Few brake swaps have been done onto Bonnies, so few have actually taken a look at their spindles, let alone know what the difference between their'* and a Cavi'*.

If I were you and didn't have 5 sets of Cavi wheels sitting around, I'd put on some Bonnie crosslaces.

I hope someone here has your answers.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 09:06 AM
  #7  
BillBoost37's Avatar
DINOSAURUS BOOSTUS

Expert Gearhead
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 41,391
Likes: 30
From: Enfield, CT
BillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Your answers may be best answered with the proper tools and a day in the junkyard. That way you can measure and explore possibilities.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 12:34 PM
  #8  
toastedoats's Avatar
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,837
Likes: 3
From: Fitchburg Ma _ToastedRice_
toastedoats is on a distinguished road
Default

i think you would be the best off getting a set of 5-115 wheels instead of breaking you *** trying to make the 5-100s fit..
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 01:44 PM
  #9  
JimmyFloyd's Avatar
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,993
Likes: 0
JimmyFloyd is on a distinguished road
Default

Originally Posted by BillBoost37
Your answers may be best answered with the proper tools and a day in the junkyard. That way you can measure and explore possibilities.

i have to agree with bill here. That is how a lot of my projects and ideas start, and some die. I love the junkyard for testing out new ideas since they usually have most of the cars there. You might also want to check into purchasing or borrowing a 1993 Manual for some of the bonneville specific questions since you are using 93 parts already. As for the 87-91, might want to check that manual out as well, or sit in the junkyard for a while.

I see where you are looking at this for an Auto-x purpose and this is the first tim I have heard of it being done. Good luck with it.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
2000SilverBullet
Your Other Rides: Pics & Videos
6
Jul 2, 2006 02:44 AM
dbeast420
Lounge
2
May 6, 2006 02:49 AM
Hailey
Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning
35
Mar 18, 2004 11:39 AM
BonneMeMN
Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning
4
Oct 8, 2003 10:31 AM
big_boss2010
1992-1999
2
Sep 6, 2003 12:41 PM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:38 PM.