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Old 01-10-2004, 12:39 AM   #21
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Sorry guys a close friend of mine has a 92 T-bird SC....he always gives me a close race but my 93 L67 wins out. Mine is mostly stock and so is his. The SuperBird isn't even close as quality and he has had a lot of problems with transmissions and the power windows. I sold Fords from 89 to 94, mostly trucks. Now and then a Bird SC or a SHO. I takes a good driver to do the SHOw right if it'* got the manual, it has a real hard to master 2 -3 shift(crap linkage) most rookies miss that shift. Bird would be even up for GO, but you couldn't get me to buy one, doesn't stack up to the SSEi.

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T-bird SC'* are VERY heavy, 3900lbs so even with 210hp and 315lb of tourque an SSEi, series1 and obviously series 2 will kill a T bird.

I did a little research on the variations on the series 1SC testings on the SSEi. You know anywhare from 7.5 to 9 flat from 0-60. I'd go with the 7.5 0-60 time even though Road and Track claimed 9 sec 0-60. This is because R&T used the WORST tesing conditions possible; 95 degrees and 80% humidity. Thats jungle like humidity, not exactly car friendly. Most tests are done at 75 degrees and 20% humidity. Heck, they probably had the AC blasting as well. None the less 7.5 sec 0-60 is much more reasonable for 205hp and 260lb touque. A series 1 NA will run 0-60 in 9 flat.
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is the eaton M90 supercharger on the supercoupes interchangable w/ the superchargers on the series 2 engines or is one made for gm and another for fords? Did any other cars besides the few gm cars ever come with the m62 supercharger?

i was lookin for a series 1 bonneville but i came across a 92 park avenue ultra w/ around 100k thats real clean, so that may be my next ride if nothin else catches my eyes in the next week or so
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2453501548

Here'* one that'* fairly close to ya. No reserve, at $500 right now...
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As a former TBird SC owner, I can confirm the 210 hp and 315 lbs torque for 89-93 SC'*. The 94 - 95 model cars received many tweaks by the 3.8L Engineers. The rods were improved, the heads were modified slightly, and the crank was altered. Numerous electronic components and sensors were changed, the EEC controller was updated, and the injectors were raised to 36# vs. 30# on the early model cars. The automatic transmission became “electronic” (4R70W vs. AOD), the manual trans. received slightly different ratios. The single major reason for the horsepower difference between the early and late model engines is the better internal porting and epoxied rotors on the ‘94/95 Eaton supercharger. The differences between the two and the rectangular opening on the rear of the late model unit is far larger than the oval opening on the early model units. Even though it is spun slower than the early model blowers, it makes the extra HP easily through enhanced airflow capability and increased adiabatic efficiency which increased HP to 230 and torque went up to 330. .

My 95 SC was a 5speed and when it was running right It was faster than a friends 98 Grand Prix GTP (stock vs stock).

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Quarter Mile times for "Box Stock" 89-93 Thunderbird SC '*:

With Automatic Transmission: They run between 15.7 to 16.0 seconds at around 86-88 mph.
With Manual Transmission: They run between 15.4 to 15.7 seconds at around 88-90 mph.

This is the only time I can find for a stock 94 or 95
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1995 Ford Thunderbird SC 6.8 to 7.0 15.0 to 15.2
What SCCOA says about 1/4 mile times

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The 89-93 SC’* and 89-90 XR7’* made 210HP at 4400rpm and 315ft-lbs of
torque at 2600rpm. The 94-95 SC’* made 230HP @ 4500rpm and 330ft-lbs of
torque at 2500rpm
Qoute from SCCOA

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The 94-95 Super Coupe flat out makes more HP and Torque than any fuel
injected Mustang GT up to 1998.
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Stock 89-95 M5R2 equipped SC’* and 89-90 XR7’* run anywhere from 140-
145 mph. Stock AOD and 4R70W equipped SC’* and XR7’* can approach
135-140 mph, but become rev limited around that speed.
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Here'* a page from Motor Trend:



The TBird was an Automatic and still ran a 15.2 at 88 mph.
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i was lookin for a series 1 bonneville but i came across a 92 park avenue ultra w/ around 100k thats real clean, so that may be my next ride if nothin else catches my eyes in the next week or so
Not srue you'll be happy with the softer suspension and taller gears. It drives totally different.
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That ebay car that was posted seems to have the ABS/TC system out....Not a bad thing though!
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That ebay car that was posted seems to have the ABS/TC system out....Not a bad thing though!
Yeah, I found mine on eBay. Traded a '71 musclecar plus $1000.

Bah, I was going to post a pic of my Torino, but they're all at work. Anyway....

So far, the only Thunderbird that'* beaten me was one with a modified and chipped 5.0. Now, based on BadTA'* findings, I need to find a 94-95 TBird SC to taste... :P

Truthfully, I hope I get beat up on by it...heheh...
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Here'* what a 94 or 95 will look like in the front:



Here'* what a 94-95 will look like in the back:




Here'* what a 89-93 will look like:

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