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Old 09-09-2007, 01:27 AM   #1
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Jason, maybe you can clear this up?

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-Autobahn Package
Never heard of that on a Bonneville before. Isn't that an Aurora thing?
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Jason, maybe you can clear this up?

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-Autobahn Package
Never heard of that on a Bonneville before. Isn't that an Aurora thing?
Option QVG on the buildsheet....
http://rubix.ca/bonnies/97ssei/97ssei_buildsheet.jpg
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Just trying to clarify this for a potential buyer, but I'd assume one of two things:

That'* an error.
It'* a Canadian car only option that we've never heard of before.

It might pay to research it further.
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Just trying to clarify this for a potential buyer, but I'd assume one of two things:

That'* an error.
It'* a Canadian car only option that we've never heard of before.

It might pay to research it further.
I assumed it had something to do with the suspension, gearing or tires.... either way, the car was built with it.

A quick search on the forum here shows at least one other person with QVG.
And on the compiled RPO list here on the BC, it'* listed as "QVG - tire, all season,P225/60R16/N BL R/PE ST TL AL3 97H "
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The Q codes for GM RPO listings are all tire and wheel related, and only specify the size or type of tire/wheel combination. There was no Autobahn package for a FWD Bonneville.

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Q34 : WHEEL SPARE l9.5 X 6

Q4B : GVW RATING 6200 LBS

QA1 : WHEEL, 17 X 9 *, ALUMINUM, STYLED

QA3 : WHEEL, 16 X 6.0, STEEL

QA4 : WHEEL, 15 X 5.5, ALUMINUM

QAB : TIRE ALL, Pl95/70R14/N BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QB4 : WHEEL, 16 X 6, ALUMINIUM

QB5 : WHEEL, 16 X 6. 5, STEEL

QB6 : WHEEL, 17 X B 5 FRT X 9.5 RR, ALUMINUM, STYLED

QBE : TIRE ALL, LT235/75R15C WL R/PE ST TL OOR

QBZ : TIRE ALL, P205/55VR16/N BL R/PE ST TL HWY

QCE : TIRE ALL, P205/75R15/N BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QCF : TIRE ALL, P205/75R15/N RWL R/PE ST TL ALS

QCG : TIRE ALL, P205/75R15/N WS2 R/PE ST TL ALS

QCR : TIRE ALL, P205/70R13/N BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QCS : TIRE ALL, P205/70R13/N WS1 R/PE ST TL ALS

QCT : TIRE ALL, P205/70R13/N RWL R/PE ST TL ALS

QCU : TIRE ALL, P215/75RlS/N BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QCV : TIRE ALL, P215/75R15/N WS2 R/PE ST TL ALS

QCW : TIRE ALL, P215/75R15/N RWL R/PE ST TL ALS

QDP : TIRE ALL, P195/70RlS/N BL TBL R/PE ST AL3

QDZ : TIRE ALL, P245/50VR16/N BL R/PE ST TL HW4

QEB : TIRE ALL, P235/75R15/N WOL R/PE ST TL OOR

QEE : TIRE ALL, P205/65R15 BL R/PE ST TL ALS 925

QER : TIRE ALL, P205/65R15 WS2 R/PE ST TL ALS 925

QET : TIRE ALL, P225/75R15/N BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QEU : TIRE ALL, P225/75R15/N WS2 R/PE ST TL ALS

QFE : TIRE ALL, P185/75R14/N BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QFF : TIRE ALL, P185/75R14/N WS2 R/PE ST TL ALS

QFL : TIRE ALL, P235/75R15 BW R/PE ST TL ALS lOSS

QFN : TIRE ALL, P235/75R15 WL R/PE ST TL ALS lOSS

QFT : TIRE ALL, P205/75R14/N BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QGK : TIRE ALL,165/60SR14 BL R/ST TL 113 745 (OVERSEAS)

QGL : TIRE ALL,175/65SR14 BL TL R/ST 113 B1S (OVERSEAS)

QGM : TIRE ALL,175R14 BL TL R/ST HWY 190 BBT (OVERSEAS)

QGW : TIRE ALL, P215/60R16/N BL R/PE ST TL AL3

QGY : TIRE ALL, P205/70R15/N BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QGZ : TIRE ALL, P205/70R15/N WS R/PE ST TL ALS

QHA : TIRE ALL, P235/75R15/X BW R/PE ST TL ALS

QHB : TIRE ALL, P235/75R15/X WS2 R/PE ST TL ALS

QHE : TIRE ALL, l95/65R15/N BL R/ST TL HWY (9OH 1304PH

QHF : TIRE ALL, P205/60R15/N BL R/PE ST TL AL3

QHH : TIRE ALL, P205/60R15/N WOL R/PE ST TL AL3

QHJ : TIRE ALL, P225/70R15/N WS1 R/PE ST TL HWY

QHP : TIRE ALL, LT225/75R16/D BW R/PE ST TL ALS

QHR : TIRE ALL, LT225/75R16/D BW R/PE ST TL OOR

QHS : TIRE ALL, P185/80R13/N BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QHT : TIRE ALL, P185/80R13/N WS1 R/PE ST TL ALS

QHX : TIRE ALL, P205/70R14/N BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QHY : TIRE ALL, P205/70R14/N WS2 R/PE ST TL ALS

QID : TIRE ALL, LTl95/75R14/C BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QIE : TIRE ALL, P165/70R12/N BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QIF : TIRE ALL, P185/60R14/N BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QII : TIRE ALL, P215/60R16 8W R/PE ST TL AL3 94H

QIM : TIRE ALL, P205/60R15/N BL R/PE ST TL AL2 90S

QIN : TIRE ALL, P205/70R15/N BL R/PE ST TL AL2 955

QIP : TIRE ALL, P205/70R15/N WS2 R/PE ST TL AL2 9SS

QIQ : TIRE ALL, P205/60R15 WOL R/PE ST TL AL2 90S

QIT : TIRE ALL, LT245/75R16/C BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QIW : TIRE ALL, LT245/75R16/E BL R/PE ST TL OOR

QIX : TIRE ALL, LT265/75R16/C BL R/PE ST TL OOR

QIY : TIRE ALL, LT265/75R16/C WOL R/PE ST TL OOR

QIZ : TIRE ALL, LT245/75R16/E BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QJA : TIRE ALL, P215/60HR14/N BL R/ST TL HWY (OVERSEAS)

QJI : TIRE ALL, Pl85/70R14/N BL R/NY TL HWY

QJJ : TIRE ALL, 31XlO.50RlSLT/C BW R/PE ST TL OOR

QJL : TIRE ALL, P205/75R15/N WOL R/PE ST TL OOR

QJR : TIRE ALL, P205/75R14/N WS2 R/PE ST TL ALS

QJT : TIRE ALL, P205/75R15/N BL R/PE ST TL OOR

QJV : TIRE ALL, LT225/75R15/C BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QLC : TIRE ALL, P245/50ZR16/N BL R/PE ST TL HW4

QLG : TIRE ALL, P205/55R16/N BL R/PE ST TL AL3

QLM : TIRE ALL, P215/60R15/N BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QLU : TIRE ALL, P225/55VR16/N BL R/PE ST TL HWY

QLV : TIRE ALL, P225/75R15/N WS2/GOLD R/PE ST TL ALS

QLW : TIRE ALL, 175R14 BL TL R/ST ALS 120MPH/BBT OVERSEAS

QMB : TIRE ALL, P215/60R14/N BL R/PE ST TL AL3

QME : TIRE ALL, Pl95/70R14/N BL R/PE ST TL AL2

QMG : TIRE ALL, P215/60R14/N WOL R/PE ST TL AL3

QMR : TIRE ALL, P205/65R15/N BL R/PE ST TL AL2

QMS : TIRE ALL, P205/55R16 BL R/PE ST TL AL2 B9S

QMT : TIRE ALL, P235/55R16/N BL R/PE ST TL AL2

QMV : TIRE ALL, P235/70R15 WS1 R/PE ST TL AL2 1025

QMW : TIRE ALL, Pl95/75R14/N BL R/PE ST TL ALS

QMX : TIRE ALL, P195/75R14/N WS2 R/PE ST TL ALS

QNJ : TIRE ALL, P215/65R15 BW R/PE ST TL AL3 95H

QNM : TIRE ALL, P225/70R15/N BL R/PE ST TL AL2

QNP : TIRE ALL, P2Z5/70R15/N WS1 R/PE ST TL AL2

QNR : TIRE ALL, P215/65R15/N WS2 R/PE ST TL AL3

QNS : TIRE ALL, P215/65R15/N BL R/PE ST TL AL3

QNT : TIRE ALL, P215/65R15/N WOL R/PE ST TL AL3

QNX : TIRE ALL, P225/60R16/N BL R/PE ST TL AL2

QNY : TIRE ALL, P225/60R16/N WS1 R/PE ST TL AL2

QPC : TIRE ALL, Pl85/65HR14/N BL R/ST TL HWY (OVERSEAS)

QPD : TIRE ALL, Pl95/65Rl5/N BL R/PE ST TL AL2 B9S

QPE : TIRE ALL, P215/60R16/N BL R/PE ST TL AL2

QPH : TIRE ALL, P215/65R15/N BL R/PE ST TL AL2

QPJ : TIRE ALL, P215/65R15/N WS1 R/PE ST TL AL2

QPK : TIRE ALL, P215/70R15/N BL R/PE ST TL ALS 975

QPN : TIRE ALL, P215/70R15/N WS2 R/PE ST TL ALS 97S

QPP : TIRE ALL, P215/65R15/N WL R/PE ST TL AL3 95H

QPX : TIRE ALL, P225/60R16 BW R/PE ST TL ALS 975

QPY : TIRE ALL, P225/60R16 WS2 R/PE ST TL ALS 975

QQD : TIRE ALL, P235/70RI5 WS2 R/PE ST TL ALS 102S

QQG : TIRE ALL, P235/70R15 BL R/PE ST TL AL3 102V

QQR : TIRE ALL, P235/70R15 WS1 R/PE ST TL AL3 102V

QRF : TIRE ALL, lBSSR14 BL R/ TL lOS TEXTILE (OVERSEAS)

QSA : TIRE ALL, P205/75R14/N RWL R/PE ST TL ALS

QUK : TIRE ALL, P235/70R15/N WS2/GOLD R/PE ST TL ALS

QUS : TIRE ALL, lBS/60HR14 BL R/ST TL 130 (OVERSEAS)

QVF : TIRE ALL, P225/60ZR16/N BL R/PE ST TL AL3

QVG : TIRE ALL, P225/60R16/N BL R/PE ST TL AL3 97H

QVI : TIRE ALL, P175/BDR14 BW R/PE ST TL ALS BBS

QWT : TIRE ALL, P245/60R15 WOL R/PE ST TL AL3 lOOT

QXJ : TIRE ALL, P225/60R16/N BL R/PE ST TL AL3 97U

QYH : TIRE ALL, P215/65R15/N WOL R/PE ST TL HWY

QYZ : TIRE ALL, P215/65R15/N BL R/PE ST TL HWY

QZY : TIRE ALL, P255/5OZR16/N BL R/PE ST TL HW4
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Bill,

<shrug> Maybe it'* a Canadian thing..... Foghorn'* car is listed with it too...
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...&highlight=qvg
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That is a tire code. GM doesn't even have an RPO code for Autobahn. It'* a combination of other options that dictates it.

Your Bonneville does not have an Autobahn package. It has tires.

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The Autobahn option only applies to classic Auroras and it was a factory option that included Michelin tires with a V speed rating instead of a standard * rating, and a 3.71 transaxle final ratio instead of the standard 3.48. What they didn't advertise - and the reason why many people ask if they have the option - is that these two changes allowed the engineers at Oldsmobile to increase the speed limiter from 110 mph in the non-Autobahn car up to 135-140 mph in the Autobahn equipped car. In addition to a greater maximum speed the optional transaxle ratio also gives quicker acceleration (and poorer fuel economy).

"Do I have one?"

The obvious way to find out if your Aurora has the Autobahn option is to take the car out for a drive and see if you can go faster than 110 mph - this may not be practical though, and an easier way is to check the tire information label inside the driver'* door and see if it lists V rated tires, don't bother to check the tires themselves as they may not be the originals. Another way is to read the RPO list which you'll find inside the trunk - (the exact location of the list depends on the year of the car, up to 1996 it was inside the trunk liner near the antenna, and on the 1997 and up it was on the inside of the spare tire cover.) The autobahn car will have a code of QQX for the V rated tires, and a code of FV4 for the final drive ratio of 3.71.

Oldsmobile dealers may have offered different packages of options, or "Preferred Equipment Groups" but nothing else was included with the Autobahn package from the factory. Chrome wheels, sliding glass sun roof, gold graphics and more were all offered as options on the Aurora, but none of these on the car are an indication that the car has the Autobahn option.

Autobahn was not an option with the 4 litre Generation 2 Auroras, they have H rated tires standard, as well as the 3.71 final drive ratio and they are speed limited to 135 mph.

(Tire speed ratings: V=149 mph; H=130 mph; *=112 mph.)
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the GM RPO Master List does not say anything about the Autobahn
i looked up Foghorns PRO for it and it just says , "STYLED, PAINTED"
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The point of this excercise is to correct a For Sale listing for the benefit of our members and your potential buyer. Not to debate RPO code definitions.

I suggest you correct your original post to reflect the fact that tires shipped on the car from the factory. (not sure where the error in your printout came from, but GM computers have a reputation.......including the ones that run our cars).

Back on topic.........
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the GM RPO Master List does not say anything about the Autobahn
i looked up Foghorns PRO for it and it just says , "STYLED, PAINTED"
STYLED PAINTED is PA6

I guess this mysterious "Autobahn Package" might be a Canadian thing. However, on the Aurora it means that the car'* speed limiter has been increased to above 110mph and it cames with V rated tires. My car has had the speed limiter removed, and comes with W rated tires.

Bill, if you're really concerned about me listing something my car was built with as spec'd from GM, because of confusion, I can edit my post. No biggie, but it was listed on my RPO sheet, and I've found one other GM car that is listed the same way. Both Canadian 1997 SSEi'*. So you can see how I thought it was valid.... besides... it sounds cool too.
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