General GM Chat When starting new posts, please specify YEAR, MAKE, MODEL, ENGINE type, and whatever modifications you have made. Chat about all things GM (and related cars). Off-topic stuff should be in the Lounge, and all Model specific mechanical problems should be posted in the proper forum.

Remote Start

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 4, 2010 | 02:17 PM
  #1  
Yung Clyde's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Yung Clyde is on a distinguished road
Default Remote Start

I bought an Aftermarket Generation remote start kit and i wanted to install it myself but there are so many wires and i dont want to mess anything up. I went to an installer and he said i need to buy a bypass kit because my car has a transponder key or something. I think he'* lying and i'd like to know what all do i need in order to put a remote start on my bonny. Its a 2000 bonneville se
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2010 | 02:27 PM
  #2  
sawgunner's Avatar
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,122
Likes: 0
From: Dover, NH
sawgunner is on a distinguished road
Default

he aint lying you need the bypass for the VATS system
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2010 | 02:29 PM
  #3  
Mike's Avatar
Retired
Certified Car Nut
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 17,960
Likes: 1,839
From: Dark Side, AZ
Mike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond repute
Default

No, he wasn't lying. Your car has a anti theft feature. Wrong key, and you won't start. I believe you can bypass the VATS system, but I only see a Tech article for 92-99. Someone should chime in with more info.
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2010 | 03:05 PM
  #4  
ymmot04's Avatar
-- SITE DONATOR --
True Car Nut
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 4,638
Likes: 6
ymmot04 is a glorious beacon of lightymmot04 is a glorious beacon of lightymmot04 is a glorious beacon of lightymmot04 is a glorious beacon of lightymmot04 is a glorious beacon of lightymmot04 is a glorious beacon of light
Default

I have a remote start on my 03 SSEi. I have an autostart remote start, and we used a flash logic bypass module. You would need an FLDL1, and you also have to have a programmer to program it. If your going to have it installed, best to just let them use there module and take care of it all for you. They are costly, I think the FLDL1 is around 80-90 dollars. Expect the same pricing from them for the bypass module.
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2010 | 03:42 PM
  #5  
Yung Clyde's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Yung Clyde is on a distinguished road
Default

Is it risky if i buy a bypass kit from Ebay thats costs less or just give it to the shop and pay the 80-90 dollars
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2010 | 03:49 PM
  #6  
Mike's Avatar
Retired
Certified Car Nut
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 17,960
Likes: 1,839
From: Dark Side, AZ
Mike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Post a link for that item you have found. We should be able to tell you if it will work or not. IMO, I wouldn't trust some of the stuff on Ebay.
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2010 | 03:58 PM
  #7  
ymmot04's Avatar
-- SITE DONATOR --
True Car Nut
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 4,638
Likes: 6
ymmot04 is a glorious beacon of lightymmot04 is a glorious beacon of lightymmot04 is a glorious beacon of lightymmot04 is a glorious beacon of lightymmot04 is a glorious beacon of lightymmot04 is a glorious beacon of light
Default

If you have the shop install it, they likely will refuse to use any bypass module other than their own. We would never use anything but our own product as far as remote starts go, just because you would have to learn any new product you were installing which takes time, as well as you don't know the quality. It'* best to stick with something you know works.

If you plan on doing the install yourself, find something with a good set of instructions and reputation. I believe the 2003 is still on the CAN bus, which should make it easier to install a remote start with the proper bypass module and instructions, everything should be controlled through 1 wire. If I remember correctly, everything can also get destroyed through that 1 wire if you make a mistake though, mainly your PCM.

I didn't actually install my remote start, but I worked very closely with our installer on many of them and am trying to recall how it all goes. Like Mike said, post up what you found and someone should know something about it.
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2010 | 04:10 PM
  #8  
crunkfrunk's Avatar
Senior Member
Posts like a Corvette
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,389
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
crunkfrunk is on a distinguished road
Default

I'm going to get one installed tommorrow, I am using an XpressKit DLPKGM which will interface with the car to make the install easier
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2010 | 04:37 PM
  #9  
ymmot04's Avatar
-- SITE DONATOR --
True Car Nut
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 4,638
Likes: 6
ymmot04 is a glorious beacon of lightymmot04 is a glorious beacon of lightymmot04 is a glorious beacon of lightymmot04 is a glorious beacon of lightymmot04 is a glorious beacon of lightymmot04 is a glorious beacon of light
Default

If you go here http://www.flash-it.com/, you can enter your vehicle, it will show you the compatible flash logic modules for your car (FLDL1 is the cheapest that does everything you need) then look at the install guide. It is mostly wiring in-between the remote start module and the bypass module, very few of the cars wires get used. I have heard of XpressKit before, I believe we actually used them for a while as well, I'm not familiar with how they work but I would assume it'* about the same.

No matter what module you use: As a rule of thumb, I have found it is best to run a new fused posative line from the battery to the remote start, they tend to be picky about voltage. It is also best to solder all connections possible, using the wire taps and such generally comes back to bite you later when one comes loose.
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2010 | 04:55 PM
  #10  
Yung Clyde's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Yung Clyde is on a distinguished road
Default

Well, there'* no point in bothering myself then. I'll give it to the shop to do all they have to. Its too damn cold in chicago
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:56 PM.