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Old 08-09-2005, 01:09 AM   #21
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Oh boy from all the posts it looks to be a assload more than its worth. Its an '89 too man.

Here'* me. Call trans shop next am, get rebuild quote. If satisified, get towed and come back next week pick up nice car with new tranny
We already know what you would do, thanks
"And ask Mom for the money".

Only an 89? Auroradude, that'* his FIRST car. And he got it the HARD way.
BURNED!

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Old 08-09-2005, 01:10 AM   #22
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Find some car that blew it'* con rod bearings out or something scary., if it still had a good tranny.
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:28 AM   #23
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Find some car that blew it'* con rod bearings out or something scary., if it still had a good tranny.
lol mine did that now the car has 174k on it and an engine with 150ish on it out of my old SE that blew its trans
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:48 AM   #24
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It seems clutch material in the pan is a bad thing, and well my transmission has kind of bit the dust. I lost 3rd and OD, but I have Reverse, 1st, and 2nd. All of which work great. So, obviously the transmission is gone. I could have gone the route of getting a used unit, but I always talked about rebuilding a blown one. I think this is my time.

To all the members who want to tell me 'oh, well, it is hard, you won't be able to do it.' Don't. I'm not going to listen. I am doing this mainly for education. If I happen to get a good transmission out of this, then great. If not, I learn the hard way, automatic FWD transmissions are not to be touched. I will be going in skeptical, but with a positive outlook on skepticality. Whatever that means.

I believe I will go about removing the engine/trans above. Instead of dropping the sub frame. It sounds the latter would be harder for just me [gotta remember, i'm just a weak 15 year old doing this alone]. I have no clue what the rental costs would be for an engine hoist.. but I think it is good to assume it will be less than purchasing one [at $150]? I think I will be helped greatly from Randy [randman1] and Bill [BillBoost37], since they seem to be the only members who pulled an LN3?

As far as the where I will be rebuilding the trans.. I have a 4x8 work bench in my basement [dry], a bottom shelf just a smidge smaller than the top shelf, and a good amount of [dry] floorspace. This is obviously an unfinished basement. I also have the garage, but I don't have a workbench out there [no problem there, if necessary], it'* kinda waterproof [wherever i would place it, it would be water proof], but idk about how 'sterile' it is. My basement seems better, IMO.

Then for the actual rebuilding part, I don't know anyone who has really rebuilt a TH440-T4, except for Alec [alec_b]. Who has already been a great help with giving me a great overall type thing of what to expect and whatnot. I believe I am correct on this?

Oh, BTW the whole reason I posted here is for views. Not a whole lot of people visit the 87-91 forum. So please don't move this thread.

EDIT: Just for everyone'* information, I have acquired a job, and have an income of about $100/week. I only work one day a week, and only for a few hours.. so I will not be overwhelmed by work or anything. I should have $300 within 2 weeks.. which will probably cover the majority of the costs.. right?
i did a pan drop in mine a few weeks ago and it had more clutch material than urs but it still upshifts just fine, i think its all from the reverse gear which slams into gear, but every other time lately it isnt slamming w000 i just hope it dosent go out like urs did
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Old 08-09-2005, 09:05 AM   #25
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Lakeville, i hate to go against you here, but i think you are wrong. There'* nothing indicating that he has cracked or broken sun gears. My car displayed the same symptoms as his and there was nothing wrong with any of the gears in the transmission beyond slight tooth wear. Don't you realize that if a gear went there would be MAJOR grinding and metal chunks, not shavings, CHUNKS, in the pan. Also, Justin is very close on his prices, it doesn't cost anywhere near 500 for all the things you will need for a rebuild. A full rebuild kit, WITH the updated 1-2 shift spring, only costs roughly 150 dollars from a reputable transmission shop. And even if he does run into trouble with tools almost any of them can be rented through autozone or some other establishment. So please, have background info first or keep your comments to yourself. Thanks.
Sounds like you may need a lil educating yourself......I've blown sun gears before.....gotten the same effect.....they don't launch MAJOR metal fragments all over. There just maybe a slight "sparkle" to the fluid. All there is that breaks on a sungear is small weld where the spined collar goes onto a shell. And actually no, I'm probably not too far off from the $500 mark, ya know if he wants to do this correctly and replace any and all parts that show any wear. Every hear of cheap insurance? A full rebuild kit maybe in reality comes with about.......hrmmmmm....I'd say maybe 1/2 (?) that a good, solid, rebuild would require?

I work very closely with a local tranny shop here. So what I'm telling YOU......Is experience over thoughts.

Congratulations, Have a nice day.
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Old 08-09-2005, 09:09 AM   #26
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We all know that I know nothing about trannies but, sheesh, let the guy go for it. He'* 15, has probably more time and "spare" money then the rest of us as well as less dependancy on the car. We all have done things and spent money on what others would call frivilous, but we do it for ourselves because we think its worth the cost.
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The giant Pikachu beanbag chair was not frivolous! It'* actually quite comfortable!!

Serioulsy, tho, I think most people were trying to give a helpful warning. Tranny'* ain't like most other car parts. Theres a lot of super tiny, precisely fit gears and springs and whatnot in there.

Personally, I think it sounds like an interesting project. It'd be neat to get inside a transmission and poke around, but you definitely should have a backup plan.
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I post a thread here, and it turns into a big argument on how i should get a used tranny. I'm not getting a used tranny. The car does need to be used.. but it needs to have OD. I'm not getting on a highway in a car that can only do 55 [you think i'm going to redline the car to do 80?]. I'd get run over.

Please guys, this thread is about general help that I may need, tips and whatnot. This isn't a decision for me to make. I am pulling the engine/trans, with the intent to rebuild the trans. I am not planning on purchasing a used transmission. Unless I don't feel I can rebuild the transmission, or that it does not work or fails.

Obviously I cannot have a thread here with everyone to see. Will an admin or mod please delete this thread. I will continue this topic in 87-91, if you have anything important to say, then please contribute. If not, don't post anything.
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I post a thread here, and it turns into a big argument on how i should get a used tranny. I'm not getting a used tranny. The car does need to be used.. but it needs to have OD. I'm not getting on a highway in a car that can only do 55 [you think i'm going to redline the car to do 80?]. I'd get run over.

Please guys, this thread is about general help that I may need, tips and whatnot. This isn't a decision for me to make. I am pulling the engine/trans, with the intent to rebuild the trans. I am not planning on purchasing a used transmission. Unless I don't feel I can rebuild the transmission, or that it does not work or fails.

Obviously I cannot have a thread here with everyone to see. Will an admin or mod please delete this thread. I will continue this topic in 87-91, if you have anything important to say, then please contribute. If not, don't post anything.
Nobody is trying to get you to decide. We're all STRONGLY suggesting that you have a back up trans....instead of being out of whatever you spend on the one that you rebuild that could very well go great, and you'll DEFINANTLY have some bragging rights, or that just may explode the second it gets put in gear.

Merely suggestions, and whatever you do, is whatever you do. We all want to see the car back on the road and you happy. If this doesn't work, you know that you'll be pissed as all ever living hell, out a car, and trans, and whatever money you dumped into it.

My point is, get the back up, leave it sit, if you feel you can't rebuild it....BOOM you're already set to go on just throwing the good trans up.

Just a thought, nobody'* telling you what to do. You almost make this sound like we're trying to run your life.......Sheeeesh......
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Here'* an idea Justin. Find a way to get the motor and trans from my car out of Bills garage and into yours. Put that in, drive the car and rebuild yours as a spare.
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