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Old 05-12-2007, 11:50 PM   #21
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I used Fram all the time back in the 80* & 90* (Delco & Purolator now).

IIRC - In the mid 80* Consumer Reports did an evaluation / bench testing of oil filers in which Fram was rated one of the best.
Just goes to show that things can change.
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Old 05-13-2007, 03:33 PM   #22
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The K&N'* to me are just another name, and I don't care for K&N'* $10 price tag, prolly just paying for the name. Mobil 1 I don't know much about them, ran them on my last 2 bonne'* with no problems, didn't notice anything special I don't recall for the close to $10 price tag also.

I run K&N. Why? Because even after 6000 miles on Mobil1 without changing the filter, my oil was cleaner (based on 2 UOA'*) than 3000 miles on Dino Juice and a PureOne filter.
U get 6000 on one of your cars a year? I always hear they're pulled apart for moddin' lol.

My thing about the Amsoil that I run, is the fact that I go longer on a service interval. Changing my oil every 3k, at 3 galllons and a filter per change, times five to make it to my 15K mark (under a severe service)....Costs me more than the one time I change with Amsoil.

Anyways, difference I noticed was cold starting ability, OP change, and noise amount from the engine. Just because when I used the Mobil 1 and a K&N filter on a bonne a few times and didn't care for it doesn't mean I need to smacked in the face with a brick or something for having a preference and opinion.
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Enough of the Bickering from everyone...

Answer to the question... Keeping in mind that Marik is not a rich man and chances are he won't be spending the $$$ on a K & N or Amsoil...

Marik, The PF47 AC Delco, The Wix, The Puralator the Havoline filter among several others will be fine for your car bud..

And again, if you are ever out this way I have several filters you can have.. I stock up on the suckers..

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yup. ive run with purolator pure ones for years now.
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I run K&N. Why? Because even after 6000 miles on Mobil1 without changing the filter, my oil was cleaner (based on 2 UOA'*) than 3000 miles on Dino Juice and a PureOne filter.
Bingo you hit the nail on the head. I run Redline in the Bonny and a good filter is worth the extra protection for the 3K to 6K mileage range.

Also do not lump all Frams in the same category. The Tough Guard is a decent filter however you can get the same protection at less cost with Wix or Purolator.

Mark:
PEP Boys has some decent sales on oil and filters. last summer I picked up two free oil changes using Valvoline oil and filters, after rebates, and 6 Qts of Valvoline for $4.00 after rebate. Check them out.
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The K&N'* to me are just another name, and I don't care for K&N'* $10 price tag, prolly just paying for the name. Mobil 1 I don't know much about them, ran them on my last 2 bonne'* with no problems, didn't notice anything special I don't recall for the close to $10 price tag also.

I run K&N. Why? Because even after 6000 miles on Mobil1 without changing the filter, my oil was cleaner (based on 2 UOA'*) than 3000 miles on Dino Juice and a PureOne filter.
U get 6000 on one of your cars a year? I always hear they're pulled apart for moddin' lol.

My thing about the Amsoil that I run, is the fact that I go longer on a service interval. Changing my oil every 3k, at 3 galllons and a filter per change, times five to make it to my 15K mark (under a severe service)....Costs me more than the one time I change with Amsoil.

Anyways, difference I noticed was cold starting ability, OP change, and noise amount from the engine. Just because when I used the Mobil 1 and a K&N filter on a bonne a few times and didn't care for it doesn't mean I need to smacked in the face with a brick or something for having a preference and opinion.
Nate, I did my oil testing starting 5 years ago when I had only the SSEi to drive, and was putting on over 12,000 a year.

Your truck has no bearing (due to oil capacity) on your statements here or on the questions asked.

Smacked in the face? I would expect someone with all that amsoil in his signature to either not bash the competition, or stay out of the topic altogether other than 'see what I can offer'. Please remember what we expect of our vendors here.

Head to head, I doubt amsoil lubricants or filters are any better than any other premium offer out there.
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AC Delco, Purolator PureONE, Mobil1, Amsoil, Napa Gold. And..yeah. those are my recommendations.
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I hate to beat this to death (any more than it has already ) However, I've seen many posts saying that Fram= EVIL (more or less). That there are plastic parts, cardboard parts, etc. used in the making of Fram oil filters.

So, today I was cleaning up my shop and found an old Fram oil filter and decided to cut it open and see what was really in there.

NO plastic
NO cardboard
Just metal, paper filter element and a silicone rubber gasket. Identical to the innards of the expensive filters that I use in my airplane (except smaller).

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i always use mobil 1 oil filters and i haven't had any problems.
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i always use mobil 1 oil filters and i haven't had any problems.

Well that wasn't really the point of my post. I just can't see anything wrong with the way the Fram filter is built. I'm wondering if maybe the ones we get in Canada are made different than the ones being complained about.
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