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Old 03-07-2004, 04:48 AM   #11
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I know what you guys are talking about. Most of the people that I know, think American cars are junk. One of the guys that I work with called around all afternoon looking for a rental car that was not a domestic. I would think he would look for a domestic since he had to replace the head gasket on his 4-Runner 3 times over 140,000 miles. People like to call my Bonnie a “ghetto cruiser” and say how it would be lucky to make it to 80,000 miles and anything over that is “driving on borrowed time.” It’* fun to see their faces when I tell them that it has over 200,000 on it. Sure I’ve had to fix an intake leak a couple times, but that beats changing a timing belt every 60,000 miles, and all of the other required maintenance that most imports need. If there’* one car that the import crowd really hates, it’* the Corvette. They love to talk about how slow C5’* are and how they can beat them in their modded Eclipses, ect. I guess they don't know that imports aren't the only cars that can be modded. I don’t feel too bad about being “slow” since I don’t street race and I didn’t buy my cars to prove anything. The funniest thing is when they say “I will beat you in the corners” apparently they have never been to a SCCA autocross. Enough with my little rant, I don’t care if people like what I drive or not, I’m proud to drive American.
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I actually dont know anyone that would prefer a japanese built car over an american one. As a matter of fact every time im out with my friends and we see one we all laugh at the giant wing and fart can and make fun of it.
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MAZDA isnt a foreign car its owned buy Ford motor company tell her that
I know, but thats just like saying Mitsubishi isn't foreign because its owned by Chrysler. Or like saying Chrysler is foreign because its owned/partnered with Mercedes.

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I know what you guys are talking about. Most of the people that I know, think American cars are junk. One of the guys that I work with called around all afternoon looking for a rental car that was not a domestic. I would think he would look for a domestic since he had to replace the head gasket on his 4-Runner 3 times over 140,000 miles. People like to call my Bonnie a “ghetto cruiser” and say how it would be lucky to make it to 80,000 miles and anything over that is “driving on borrowed time.” It’* fun to see their faces when I tell them that it has over 200,000 on it. Sure I’ve had to fix an intake leak a couple times, but that beats changing a timing belt every 60,000 miles, and all of the other required maintenance that most imports need. If there’* one car that the import crowd really hates, it’* the Corvette. They love to talk about how slow C5’* are and how they can beat them in their modded Eclipses, ect. I guess they don't know that imports aren't the only cars that can be modded. I don’t feel too bad about being “slow” since I don’t street race and I didn’t buy my cars to prove anything. The funniest thing is when they say “I will beat you in the corners” apparently they have never been to a SCCA autocross. Enough with my little rant, I don’t care if people like what I drive or not, I’m proud to drive American.
That is a very common excuse, "faster in the corners". I personally don't care how this car handles going 60 through a turn. It handles well for what it is.
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i took my car autox-ing maybe two times... spent most of the day on three wheels and ended up finishing 51st and 43rd out of 70 cars, respectively. the top cars were a bunch of civics, a lotus elise, and a camaro ss with major suspension upgrades...
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There are both good things about import and domestic.....we like what we like and we`ll argue about the different points....lol for me i like the old school cars 60`* early 70`* ....also the nissan skyline GTR ......unbeleiveably fast stock for stock a domestic car killer......but domestic will win out for me....i like big roomy boats ...looks stock but packs a hella of a punch
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I like them both besides its just a car

thank god they dont have domestic and foreign houses
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I like them both besides its just a car

thank god they dont have domestic and foreign houses
Thats Agreed.... I am a car guy, so no matter what I take some sort of interest weather is foreign or domestic...
I agree, what a boring world it would be if we all drove the same kind of car.
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I like them both besides its just a car

thank god they dont have domestic and foreign houses
Thats Agreed.... I am a car guy, so no matter what I take some sort of interest weather is foreign or domestic...
I agree, what a boring world it would be if we all drove the same kind of car.
That'* what they did in the former Soviet Union.
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how do you feel about Toyota Corrolla?????????
I love it. We had an '89 GT-* coupe, didn't have too much in the engine, but boy did it handle. The new ones are really nice too, I'd recommend them for anyone looking for a cheaper new car or a small car - new or used.

From my family'* experiences, the advantage is somewhat towards the Japanese side. The Bonny, whose engine is, well, still like new, has reliability issues with many electrical items - items too expensive to fix. Best reliability experience? With a Toyota inline-six. Hell, it was a victim of odo fraud. It was only retired because the heater gave out (blower motor contacts were gone) and well, it was old and we didn't bother fixing it. The original alternator lasted seventeen years.

My general opinion on cars is that when looking at American cars as a whole, the Japanese have an advantage. However, when you begin to look at specific things, ie, the 3800, well, it'* just about neck and neck.

A car is not better than another because of where it'* from, but because of how good it really is.

I don't think American cars are junk. I do, however, think that American four cylinders are not up to par with what Honda or Toyota are offering. I don't know, but a lot of the posts here sound like they're making Japanese cars look like junk - I wouldn't know, there'* no such thing as tone of voice on the Internet.

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I would think he would look for a domestic since he had to replace the head gasket on his 4-Runner 3 times over 140,000 miles.
I'm assuming it was a V6, then. The 3VZ-FE in the 4-Runner wasn't too good. Had it been the 22R-E 2.4 I4, well, that thing'* damn well indestructible.


... I just don't see the reasoning behind "I love my car because it'* American" or "I love my car because it'* Japanese." I really like the Bonny, and who knows, if I had $5k to kick around, I might get one for myself. I love my Toyota, so chances are I'd get one of those before a Bonny. I love my car because I love my car because I love my car.
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