man that is a dumb reason for going to a jap car, remember this tho if you go jap, you can fit your arms around your motor in a bonneville.... you can maybe put your hand next to a jap motor in the car... thats just me tho

Well to each his own, but let me tell you one thing about jap cars especially toyota.I have been to many a crash scene and there is no air bag deployments..people get messed up.And if there is deployment there is some type of malfunction.Cant say I have ever seen a AMERICAN built car do that.I have seen AMERICAN vs Jap...the jap cars we are cutting people out more often then not. they seem to crumble upon impact.......I'll stay with AMERICAN thank you

wow. there really has to be something wrong.
Your location, did it ever get flood damage or something?

I have owned 6 3800 cars for sometime and only one had issues with the outer door seal but it was not that bad. the innter black one was fine. Every other car, yeah you go to adjust but not very much, perhaps half inch gap.

Theres also supposed to be a gasket underneath the door, you might want to see if that is still there.

I can use a car wash sprayer on all the door seams and there is no drip whatsoever.

I've got pics to prove that

BTW: how many "friends" can you fit in a Bonnie compared to a foregin car, especially one that gets "good gas mileage"?

Moving to a foreign built isn't necessarliy the answer.
Why not just move up to newer??

You could ask for help from any semi local members..

Nothing like having a couple fresh people on the scene to help out.

However..if you are going across the puddle... enjoy..

My car STILL don't leak.. and it went ice fishing.. it ingested water, hydrolocked, set there with water in cylinders the whole winter ( can you say ice formation and expansion? ) still got good compression.. drained, coke cycle, changed all fluid, changed battery.. 2 second crank ( 1st crank ) and it fired up..

Good luck with the import if you think it can do that

Where'* that pics boost monkey had??

now that was water leak issue

What the....!

Thanks to whoever moved this...

Thanks for all the responses , I knew the Japanese comment might incite a virtual riot ! I suppose I was ranting but I've tired of fighting this issue and never had to do it on any other vehicle I've owned , most of which have been GM . Our 84 Buick never had this issue and the interior was like new when we sold it . Honestly , I've got to say that I won't buy another Pontiac . I've been on some other forums such as Buick Regal and haven't seen posts about leaking doors like I do on this forum . Pontiac must've had some defective rubber compounds or something . But , of course , I can't say in all certainty that other cars don't have leaks too . I just have never encountered it before to this degree . Otherwise , this car has been pretty good mechanically and dependability -wise . I do love the 3800 and have been looking at later model Regals . I didn't even know those came with the supercharger and am leaning toward getting one of those . Yes , it'* not as good looking as a the Bonnevilles but honestly I don't want to risk going through this again . What could I expect to pay for new seals at the dealer ? I've asked before on the forum where might be the best place to buy aftermarket door seals and have never gotten an answer . The ones they sell at JC Wjhitney all look so generic . I don't trust them . Any suggestions ? At this point , I just want to replace the front door seals . The rears don't seem to be leaking since repositioning . THANKS !!