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Old 06-22-2006, 11:13 PM   #11
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I don't know **** about the Impala. But the GP is gone by then. Long gone.

All I can tell you now is that we will be 100% RWD within 3 years. I'm sure going to miss the sunfire.
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The new Impala is going to be a Full-sized sedan and RWD with the modern retro look (think new camaro). The Malibu will now replace the Impala by getting a little bigger and redesigned interior and exterior. The G8 will also be RWD and will be the new pontiac Flagship sedan along with the new Buick Statesman. What is interesting is that the Zeta platform (which all these new cars are being developed from) accomodates both rear wheel drive and all-wheel-drive.
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Old 06-22-2006, 11:34 PM   #13
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Well, this reminds me of a story.

My Uncle went to the Indy 500, and my Aunt'* Brother owns a speed shop that does Indy stuff, so he got a ride in a pace car with Al Uncer (sp) Sr. He said the car was an Impala SS. I was like, sweet.

He said it was RWD, LS2, like the CTS-V. I said no way: LS4 5.3L DOD w/ FWD. We argued, then he said that he looked under the car, saw the Independant Rear Suspension, the rear axel housing and rear half-shafts, etc. He'* a mechanic, so I don't doubt his that the car was RWD, but the car doesn't exist on showroom floors.

Maybe that'* the future for the Grand Prix/Impala platform?

I'm still don't know what to think about what he said. I don't know why they'd have a prototype for all of the world to see. He even said that there were a few of those cars running around. IDK. May he never looked, just assumed it was RWD w/ LS2 and told me he looked. He had a picture of the car, and it was a 2006 Impala, not all crazy lookin'.

Whatever. As long as Pontiac goes all RWD, I'm happy.

ON EDIT: I just saw post above. Noce info Buickman104. Good to know. RWD = Good. Maybe now GM won't tank so much in the future and will prevent bankruptcy from coming.
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RWD != Good. Rear wheel drive is bad for winter driving. For that purpose, people will turn down these cars that are coming out with RWD unless you can switch to AWD.
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Yes, but your can't powerslide a FWD car in the winter, either! :P You can E-Brake all you want, it'll never be like a RWD car.

Honistly though, when I drive my car in the Chicago snow storms, I learn to love the fact that FWD gets excelent traction and is probablly worth the poorer handeling on the road (how oftan do I reach traction limits on dry pavement? Hopefully never.)

Some might say that FWD doesn't make a car handel worse, but when you try to send power through two tires and have them point the car in the right direstion, it results in a mess. Why do you think Corvettes and GTOs are RWD?
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I just hope the g8 can come close to looking as good as the bonnie did. I don't know, in all other pontiacs there is at least one thing I don't like. The grand prixs: the older ones are so plain looking and the new ones look pretty plain too, and the tail lights are hideous on all generations. The Grand ams: Every generation looks like it really came out 3 years before it really did so boring nothing grabs my attention. The inside of them looks really good but the outside is boring. The g6: Decent looking but once again not anything to look twice at.

The Bonneville: I am not a fan of the tail light setup on the 96-99s but everything else is so different and don't resemble any other car. Especially in the 00+*, they are gorgeous cars man! Every detail on even an se demands attention.

I know this is all strictly my opinion and I may even be the only one on here who feels this way, but Bonnies and Trans-Ams are the only reason I love pontiac so much and I really hope the g8 can make number 3 on my list.
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Hopefully the quality control at GM will get a boost on the G8. Especially if it'* going to be their flagship...
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Yes, but your can't powerslide a FWD car in the winter, either! :P You can E-Brake all you want, it'll never be like a RWD car
exactaly....i tried, it doesn't work well....its just as if you lost steering controll...which wouldn't be good

but you can get some pretty cool slides out of it...if you have a large area of ice....its not a power slide but its a slide
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You guys don't actually think with all the technology that GM can justify going all RWD with out putting enough programming in to take away all the fun and sliding?

Sounds like you've never experienced 96+ torque management programming.
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Some might say that FWD doesn't make a car handel worse, but when you try to send power through two tires and have them point the car in the right direstion, it results in a mess. Why do you think Corvettes and GTOs are RWD?
That'* exactly the thing. A Bonneville is a luxury/sports car, not strictly a sports car. If it was strictly a sports car like the GTO and Corvette it better be RWD. It makes sense. But alas the Bonneville isnt another GTO or Corvette, as it should be an all-year-long driver where you can take 4 family members out to dinner while afterwards you can go on the track on the weekends and race for fun. That is what the Bonneville is about, take a Deville and a Firebird and mash them together. If RWD is your shtick then one should look at another model which has strictly sport like a Grand Am/Prix or GTO. Those are lighter, may come with two doors, and is thus best suited for sport. So let them be RWD. A RWD family saloon however doesn't make sense. You still need to be able to get around when the white stuff sometimes unexpectedly falls to the ground.

I really dont get why some people make the Bonneville out to be something it isnt. Its not a GTO, its not a Corvette. Its a Deville + Firebird combo. Luxury and Sport, not strictly sport.

BTW: Where exactly in Chicago do you hail from? We should hook up with the other Chi-towners for a mini-meet.
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