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Old 01-04-2008, 05:43 PM   #1
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Default New Performance Tires - Need Help Deciding...

Preface: I don't drive a Bonneville...I do drive another 3800-powered car, though.

I've been running the tires that came on my car since I bought the car in November, 2006. Goodyear Eagle RS-A'*. They're nice tires, and have served me well...they must be quality, considering where they're used. Replacements are $250ish a tire, plus install, balance and alignment, though. The tires have some tread left, and might get me through another summer (would easly do 'sane' drivers another summer), but I bought new Winters this fall, so I figure new summer/all-season tires are in order. I'm not paying $1000+install for Original Equipment tires, so I went shopping...

I don't like Bridgestone and I hate Firestone with a passion. Save yourself the trouble, and don't even suggest them.

Options i've unearthed so far include:
http://oktire.com/images/tires/FUZ/Fuzion.jpg <-- Fuzion ZRi
http://oktire.com/images/tires/KUM/KL21ECSTA_ASX.jpg <-- Kumho ECSTA ASX KU21
http://oktire.com/images/tires/PIR/P4000ST.jpg <-- Pirelli P4000 SuperTouring
http://oktire.com/images/tires/PIR/P6000hi.jpg <-- Pirelli P6000
http://oktire.com/images/tires/TOYO/TPT.jpg <-- Toyo Proxes TPT

Of those, the Toyos have the second-best treadwear (UTQG of 400 - Toyo will replace up to 100,000km). They're only V-speed rated, though, which is the same as whats on the car now. Not necessarily a bad thing, mind you, just an observation. The KU21'* have a UTQG treadware rating of 420, but according to my calculations, thats only about 50,000km...and Toyo, despite having a lower treadwear rating, will replace tires up to 100,000km. Thats a tad confusing.

The P6000'* can be had in speed ratings up to Y, which I know is overkill. W would be right about my needs...rated high enough that my car will never get there, but it should be able to get at least somewhat close. The ZRi, KU21, P4000 & P6000 are available in W-ratings. The TPT'* are only V-rated.

Opinions are welcome, as are alternatives to my choices. Of the above tires, I've only priced the Fuzions. They're reasonable. I don't know what the others are, price-wise...I didn't want to spend time getting quotes if there was something else out there.

Thanks for your time!
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The Proxes TPT is a nice handling grippy tire, but neither of my last two sets made it better than 50% of treadwear gaurantee. Both were pro-rated, and it'* my understanding the TPT is no longer manufactured (may be old stock around) for this reason. Don't get me wrong, I've LOVED my TPT'*, especially after I had them siped (blade-machine siped) aftermarket, but they just don't go the miles as advertised.

I'm going with Toyo T1R'* this time (much wider) with no mileage warranty.

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I don't know if they are considered performance tires, nope they are Passenger all-season, but I like my Goodyear TripleTreds.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....nce+TripleTred
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Shame about your TPT'* not lasting as long as they gaurantee them for. Did you get free replacements as a result? I was unaware they were out of production...OKTire still lists them, and OKTire'* site is a nation-wide site, so I would have thought they'd remove the tire if it wasn't available anymore. Might have to ask my dealer about that one.

I've heard good things about the TripleTreds, and a friend has them on one of his cars (non-performance, he just likes the ride). From what i've heard though, they're just a touring tire wearing drag to make it -look- like a performance tire. I've head of them coming apart at speeds well below their rating, too. Probably an isolated incident, but still.

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My first set were pro-rated 45%, and I gave the TPT'* another chance. That set was pulled off on Saturday for the T1R'* (not all-season, but AWESOME tires) with no pro-rate due to my alignment being discovered as out by a bit (probably due to my front hub replacements).

I had to pay full price for the T1R'*.


Les Schwab in the NW no longer carries the TPT (probably due to warranty claims on mileage rating), but TOYO may still be making them. They replaced it with this:

http://www.lesschwab.com/tires/passenger/tourevo.asp

I didn't like the non-directional tread design of that tire, so I went with Kumho'* on the SLE instead of the Tourevo, and Toyo T1R on the 'toy'.
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Not really liking that tread pattern on the tourevo, either.

Those TR-1'* are sweet looking tires. $10 says Zilla chews through them pretty darn fast, though! Doesn't seem like my local tire pusher sells them, though he might be able to get them. I'll keep that as an opinion, too.

Right now, i'm leaning towards either the Fuzions, the Kumhos or those TR1'* if I can find them. That sound like a reasonable idea?

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My T1R'* aren't considered an all-season. I went with them because I have another car to drive in the nasty weather.

The T1R'* should last about 20k. Let'* say I play too hard, and they only last 10k (half-life).



They'll still last me 4 or 5 years. I only put about 2-3k on the Zilla per year.
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Hello fellow Impy owner!
Check out the Continental ContiExtremeContacts. I'm having some installed in a couple of weeks.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ExtremeContact
They're nice and cheap, and they handle well in all situations (my friend has some on his turbo eg6, they're WORLDS better than the old fuzions he had).
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