General GM Chat When starting new posts, please specify YEAR, MAKE, MODEL, ENGINE type, and whatever modifications you have made. Chat about all things GM (and related cars). Off-topic stuff should be in the Lounge, and all Model specific mechanical problems should be posted in the proper forum.

Need Help

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 8, 2010 | 03:46 PM
  #1  
komahoby's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 381
Likes: 3
From: Overland Park, Kansas
komahoby is on a distinguished road
Exclamation Need Help

Alright so my dad is getting ready to go on a business trip. For some reason, Hes gonna take the Jeep grand cherokee with him (71k miles) because he cant trust the Bonneville with 173k miles. I told him that the engine (3. is one of the most reliable engines out there, The ride is comfortable, and The car is in great shape. He just won't listen!

He tells me he wants to impress his business people (he'* picking up a few guys at the airport) but i just don't understand.

What do i think?

Well, to tell you the truth, he has never had a car that has more miles than the Bonneville (we sold our Taurus wagon with 73k on it cause my dad thought that was old :/)

So How can i convince my dad that the Bonneville will be smooth, impressive, and won't break down because i know that bonnie will not break down on him.

Please Help!
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2010 | 04:02 PM
  #2  
xtremerevolution's Avatar
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,478
Likes: 0
From: New Lenox, IL
xtremerevolution is on a distinguished road
Default

There isn't really any proof that it won't break down to be honest with you. All I can provide is my experience. My Regal went to 217k miles and never left me stranded, at which point I decided I wanted a new (faster) motor.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2010 | 04:34 PM
  #3  
wakefieldl's Avatar
Senior Member
Certified GM nut
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,916
Likes: 0
From: dekalb illinois
wakefieldl is on a distinguished road
Default

**** i had my 95 regal with the series 1 3800 (L27) other than a few small goodies done to the upper end

i bought it with 248K miles i sold it with just a pinch under 298K miles...with a blow trans..they put another trans in it..and drove it for another year and then packed up and left town with it..

these motors will break down theres no denying that...however there very easy to work on, realiable and with some mods..they can produce some good power for a FWD v6

tell your dad if he doesnt like the Bonneville, he should give it to you and with our help we could make that thing new again!
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2010 | 04:56 PM
  #4  
Danthurs's Avatar
Retired Senior Admin

Expert Gearhead
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 29,661
Likes: 43
From: Sheboygan Wisconsin
Danthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to all
Default

Even a new car can brake down. My wifes 2005 Montana has more problems then my 97 Bonneville. If it'* ell cared for, there'* no reason why it wont take you to 200k and beyond.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2010 | 05:15 PM
  #5  
xtremerevolution's Avatar
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,478
Likes: 0
From: New Lenox, IL
xtremerevolution is on a distinguished road
Default

Originally Posted by Danthurs
Even a new car can brake down. My wifes 2005 Montana has more problems then my 97 Bonneville. If it'* ell cared for, there'* no reason why it wont take you to 200k and beyond.
200k is an absolute bare minimum for these cars. If your 3800 doesn't take you to 200k, you or a previous owner did something wrong. Oil changes every 3k, don't ever over heat it, coolant changes, transmission fluid changes, etc. The bottom end is ROCK SOLID. I compression tested my Series 1 3800 at 217k miles before I took it to get the engine swapped, and all of the cylinders read within 2PSI of 188PSI. That'* not only a great compression number, but it just goes to show how excellent those piston rings were even at 217k miles of very hard abuse. I abused it, but maintained it.

The problem with mileage like that is that stupid **** will break. Things like your battery, alternator, starter going bad. Things that are very minimal, but will potentially leave you in a bad spot on the highway. I had my starter go out on me in early January of this year. The car refused to start right after I finished pumping gas. I went out and bought a tool set for $10, a starter for $60, and got the job done in half an hour in the freezing cold, in the gas station parking lot. That'* the kind of easy maintenance and easy repair that makes these cars so awesome to own. If your alternator goes bad, it takes you at most 15 minutes to change it. The car itself will be very reliable as a whole, but you'll have those few days when the starer or alternator takes a dump on you, and you're stuck without that car till you get it fixed. That'* the way it will be with any car with that kind of mileage.
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2010 | 11:45 PM
  #6  
sseidriver97's Avatar
Senior Member

True Car Nut
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 7,124
Likes: 8
From: Portage mi
sseidriver97 is on a distinguished road
Default

alot of cars with good motors are that way hell my 92 lesabre had 248 k when my aunt wrecked it and i bought it when it had 214k only thing i did outside of fluid changes was the front brakes tie rod ends and tires my truck is a 93 silverado with a ''350'' and a 4l60e it has 238700 miles on it havent had a problem with the motor just yesterday my tc went bad but what do you expect for 238k basically just like everybody else has said its all about maintinence and i know i talk alot my wifes 94 se has 250k on it and runs and drives amazingly well but thats cause between her and i whenever a small problem is discoverd its taken care of pronto and we maintain our vehicles
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2010 | 01:36 AM
  #7  
xtremerevolution's Avatar
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,478
Likes: 0
From: New Lenox, IL
xtremerevolution is on a distinguished road
Default

Originally Posted by sseidriver97
alot of cars with good motors are that way hell my 92 lesabre had 248 k when my aunt wrecked it and i bought it when it had 214k only thing i did outside of fluid changes was the front brakes tie rod ends and tires my truck is a 93 silverado with a ''350'' and a 4l60e it has 238700 miles on it havent had a problem with the motor just yesterday my tc went bad but what do you expect for 238k basically just like everybody else has said its all about maintinence and i know i talk alot my wifes 94 se has 250k on it and runs and drives amazingly well but thats cause between her and i whenever a small problem is discoverd its taken care of pronto and we maintain our vehicles
There was that early 90'* silverado that went 1 million miles.

Can I please ask you to use punctuation in the future? Your post hurt my brain to read.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2010 | 03:29 AM
  #8  
RobertISaar's Avatar
Senior Member
Posts like a Northstar
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 615
Likes: 0
From: Camden, MI
RobertISaar is on a distinguished road
Default

honestly, any V6 made by GM from oh, the late 80s until now has very few fatal flaws to it. in the end, it all comes down to neglect and luck. you neglect it, of course it'* going to die early, but then you also have to factor in the tolerances GM was playing with(luck). if you get lucky, you'll have gotten a tight motor that can potentially go 200K miles before even getting to service limits that a loose motor could have started with from the factory.

GM FWD auto transaxles on the other hand...... seem to be a lot more luck then anything. i have yet to kill one, but even people who take care of their stuff can suffer catastrophic trans failure seemingly randomly.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2010 | 06:37 AM
  #9  
BillBoost37's Avatar
DINOSAURUS BOOSTUS

Expert Gearhead
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 41,391
Likes: 30
From: Enfield, CT
BillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Why try and convince him? Seems that he'* leaving you with a nice car to drive around. Since he doesn't want to drive high mileage... it'* all yours.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2010 | 12:32 PM
  #10  
sseidriver97's Avatar
Senior Member

True Car Nut
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 7,124
Likes: 8
From: Portage mi
sseidriver97 is on a distinguished road
Default my bad

[QUOTE=xtremerevolution;1471013]There was that early 90'* silverado that went 1 million miles.

Can I please ask you to use punctuation in the future? Your post hurt my brain to read.[/QUO

Well i do sincerly aplogize as i am quite the hillbilly i do not beleive in puntuation lol im just messing with ya. yeah sorry about that i really dont think about it.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:41 AM.