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Old 10-24-2002, 08:52 PM   #21
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I have 2 RWD cars besides , you can't take turns too fast with all the weight in the front , RWD has the weight evenly! Any front car peels out , but it takes a RWD car with balls to burn rubber ! It'* not like I only hat FWD I also hte RWD without posi-traction!
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I have 2 RWD cars besides , you can't take turns too fast with all the weight in the front , RWD has the weight evenly! Any front car peels out , but it takes a RWD car with balls to burn rubber ! It'* not like I only hat FWD I also hte RWD without posi-traction!
I have to disagree with you. It takes more horsepower for a FWD car to peal out than a RWD. Reason? Because there is more weight on the front wheels than the back wheels. RWD vehicles (almost any) can peal out! I know somebody with an 82 Chevette with ONLY 60 horsepower and that thing can even peal out! I do agree with you though that RWD cars DO handle better

I love everything about bonnevilles..

The only thing I hate about them is there is too much plastic, and the insurance on them is too high!
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SUBARU is the king of traction!!!
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Old 10-24-2002, 10:38 PM   #24
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The only thing I"ve had a problem with so far is the cigarette lighters. But I think I"ve got that one solved. mY CAR WAS BUILT ON A TUESDAY. It would be interesting to see how many of you that are having all these problems have Friday or Monday cars?
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The only thing I"ve had a problem with so far is the cigarette lighters. But I think I"ve got that one solved. mY CAR WAS BUILT ON A TUESDAY. It would be interesting to see how many of you that are having all these problems have Friday or Monday cars?
the cigarrette lighter on my mom'* moves all over. You try to pull the cigarette lighter out, and the socket almost pulls out of the dash with it. lol.
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Well I like...
the styling
it'* a great cruiser
pretty reliable
I don't like...
half of the electrical stuff only works when it wants too
could use a a little bit more HP
no standard trans

As far as the front wheel drive vs. rear wheel drive issue, anything is possible with enough $$$ but having 700+ HP in a front wheel drive car is like shooting yourself in the foot. Once u start making serious power like that rear wheel drive is the only way to go. Just my opinion.
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As far as the front wheel drive vs. rear wheel drive issue, anything is possible with enough $$$ but having 700+ HP in a front wheel drive car is like shooting yourself in the foot. Once u start making serious power like that rear wheel drive is the only way to go. Just my opinion.
I would tend to agree with Blk, FWD cars have a tendency to understeer in low traction situations (winter is an example). As long as we are gentle on the accelerator, we can control this. But in a low traction situation, having the power to the same wheels that control the direction of the vehicle substantially cuts down on directional control.

A RWD vehicle has the opposite problem. In a low traction situation a RWD vehicle is prone to oversteer. However, since the directional control comes from primarily the front wheels, we can counter steer.

Both setups have their pros and cons. I like both for different reasons. But 700 HP to the front wheels would have the same directional control problems that a FWD car has on ice. Unless you have VERY STICKY TIRES, you won't have control under WOT.

And yes, it does take more HP to burn out in a RWD because of the weight transfer from front to back under heavy acceleration, and because there are more mechanicals involved that will rob some of the at-the-wheel HP (rear differencial, universal joints, carrier bearings, and drive shaft). But its all worth it when fishtailing with smoke billowing out of your rear wheel wells. [BTW, powerbreaking is for sissys. That is the only way to get a chevette to do a burn out. I know because I had a 1984 chevette sport (2 door) with a 5 speed manual tranny (I loved that car, I wanted to do a 3.8 Buick Turbo conversion sooo bad. But the unibody was too far gone)].

For those of us who prefer a RWD, be patient. If what Pontiac says is true, the Bonneville will fulfill this need, too.
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I love RWD and control is for sissies. Iím a closet dodge viper lover. Now here is a combo you might find interesting. Take a fwd car (oh this is another one of my projects/products ill make or find) add a hand brake to it without a ratchet on it so you can get it sideways. My brother used to do this with his Subaru on the tight windy mountain roads. Blind corners too actually. The only way to drive this road was at night so you could see the lights of other cars. The only guy to ever scare me was him in that Subaru. AWD is the ruler. Still.... what do you guys think of a hand brake in our fwd?

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