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Old 03-16-2006, 10:56 AM   #21
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One time investment
Set of ramps $20
Oil change bucket $10
Oil filter wrench $10
Grease gun $20

Normal costs
5 quarts of Mobil 1 $20
Oil filter $5
15 minutes of your time Free
Satisfaction of knowing it was done right Priceless
Even better,
Getting the guys at work to show me how to use the hoist... free
using the tools we have at work (even though i have my own at home) free
Oil disposal at work... free
buying my suplies (oil, filter...) not too expensive
finding time between work school and homework to actually get it on that hoist, harder then HE**!!

it'll happen soon though. i refuse to pay that much, just did it cause i didn't have the time and i had no idea when it was done last by the previous owner...
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it'll happen soon though. i refuse to pay that much, just did it cause i didn't have the time and i had no idea when it was done last by the previous owner...
You've been driving this car for how long w/o changing the oil?
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In defense of the oil change "monkeys" (as MOS put it), they could be completely correct about what his car needs. We have no proof to the contrary, and it'* perfectly possible that his car needs these things.

I worked as a "monkey" for a year, and never once did I make ***^ up in order to "upsell." If I thought the car could use a trans flush, I told the person. Ditto for belts and air filters. "Monkeys" aren't all idiots.
No offense Ryan. I know there are good, reputable shops out there as well. Unfortunately, it'* just like evrything else. What does the boss want? Money, or happy customers.
Oh for sure, I wasn't implying they were all good, just that there are some out there which are. The place I worked for wasn't attached to a shop, so if we told someone they needed "xxxx" replaced, it was just a recommendation, not to drum up business. The only things we did were fluid changes and air filters.
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In defense of the oil change "monkeys" (as MOS put it), they could be completely correct about what his car needs. We have no proof to the contrary, and it'* perfectly possible that his car needs these things.

I worked as a "monkey" for a year, and never once did I make ***^ up in order to "upsell." If I thought the car could use a trans flush, I told the person. Ditto for belts and air filters. "Monkeys" aren't all idiots.
No offense Ryan. I know there are good, reputable shops out there as well. Unfortunately, it'* just like evrything else. What does the boss want? Money, or happy customers.
Oh for sure, I wasn't implying they were all good, just that there are some out there which are. The place I worked for wasn't attached to a shop, so if we told someone they needed "xxxx" replaced, it was just a recommendation, not to drum up business. The only things we did were fluid changes and air filters.
I'm a little on both sides here... I have been to shops that were simply out to make money and rip people off.. That includes car dealerships...

I have been to a shop or two that were very honest and simply stated that there were a few things that they wanted to bring to my attention... And the even took me out to the bay to show me the issues they had found... They even said we aren't trying to sell you anything, but we want people to know if we see an issue.. They were good and did know what they were talking about( I already knew I had those issues... But was glad to see the shop point them out)

On the other hand, I have been to a shop that told me I needed new plugs, wires, tranny pan gasket, oil pan gasket( My oil pan was dry as hell, so was the tranny pan because I had the oil pan gasket replaced underwarranty, and I had just done the Tranny pan gasket and filter, that pan was also dry) Then they told me I needed brakes... The pads I had checked a month earlier and still had 3/4 of the meet left on them... Then they threw in the fuel filter, they said it looked to be original( I had just put a Fram fuel filter in there a few days before) .... It was nuts, they were out to make money off people.. But I had the small repair done and took my car knowing they were full of crapp.. I told all my friends not to go there...

I do respect the shops that will let me know if there is an issue or something that may need to be looked at... There are a few shops out there that are really good and they get good business simply by word of mouth...

I have seen several go out as they were unreal with prices and took advantage of the unsuspecting customer..

The Local Goodyear here is a great shop, I have yet to have them try to sell me something I didn't need... I have also heard them explain to the customer what they have found.. And a few customers either told them not to fix it or go ahead and repair it.. Other customers said they would get an opinion from another shop... And they told the customer thats not a problem, We are more than happy to help you when you get it all figgured out..

Thats why for the longest I have said when you find a good shop and the prices are reasonable stick with them because they are not always that easy to find..

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In defense of the oil change "monkeys" (as MOS put it), they could be completely correct about what his car needs. We have no proof to the contrary, and it'* perfectly possible that his car needs these things.

I worked as a "monkey" for a year, and never once did I make ***^ up in order to "upsell." If I thought the car could use a trans flush, I told the person. Ditto for belts and air filters. "Monkeys" aren't all idiots.
No offense Ryan. I know there are good, reputable shops out there as well. Unfortunately, it'* just like evrything else. What does the boss want? Money, or happy customers.
Oh for sure, I wasn't implying they were all good, just that there are some out there which are. The place I worked for wasn't attached to a shop, so if we told someone they needed "xxxx" replaced, it was just a recommendation, not to drum up business. The only things we did were fluid changes and air filters.
I'm a little on both sides here... I have been to shops that were simply out to make money and rip people off.. That includes car dealerships...

I have been to a shop or two that were very honest and simply stated that there were a few things that they wanted to bring to my attention... And the even took me out to the bay to show me the issues they had found... They even said we aren't trying to sell you anything, but we want people to know if we see an issue.. They were good and did know what they were talking about( I already knew I had those issues... But was glad to see the shop point them out)

On the other hand, I have been to a shop that told me I needed new plugs, wires, tranny pan gasket, oil pan gasket( My oil pan was dry as H***, so was the tranny pan because I had the oil pan gasket replaced underwarranty, and I had just done the Tranny pan gasket and filter, that pan was also dry) Then they told me I needed brakes... The pads I had checked a month earlier and still had 3/4 of the meet left on them... Then they threw in the fuel filter, they said it looked to be original( I had just put a Fram fuel filter in there a few days before) .... It was nuts, they were out to make money off people.. But I had the small repair done and took my car knowing they were full of crapp.. I told all my friends not to go there...

I do respect the shops that will let me know if there is an issue or something that may need to be looked at... There are a few shops out there that are really good and they get good business simply by word of mouth...

I have seen several go out as they were unreal with prices and took advantage of the unsuspecting customer..

The Local Goodyear here is a great shop, I have yet to have them try to sell me something I didn't need... I have also heard them explain to the customer what they have found.. And a few customers either told them not to fix it or go ahead and repair it.. Other customers said they would get an opinion from another shop... And they told the customer thats not a problem, We are more than happy to help you when you get it all figgured out..

Thats why for the longest I have said when you find a good shop and the prices are reasonable stick with them because they are not always that easy to find..
And tell your friends and neighbours about them!! Support the good places! The best advertising is word of mouth...
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it'll happen soon though. i refuse to pay that much, just did it cause i didn't have the time and i had no idea when it was done last by the previous owner...
You've been driving this car for how long w/o changing the oil?
Oh that was a while ago, quite some time ago... I changed about 2 weeks after buying it. sence then i've moved and cut my commute by at least 100 miles a day. don't run up the miles as fast anymore.
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Just ran into a situation like yours today actually at the local Pennzoil. Went in for a normal oil change (I'm home from college on break and don't have the time and neither does my dad, he'* an accountant) and they said I needed a tranny flush. I asked if I could see the fluid they drained and sure enough, it was almost black in color. I told them to do it and it'* been shifting and riding better since. Don't assume every shop is out for the money but ask questions where needed and ask to see things for yourself and you should be fine.
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The belt is an easy replacement. I have my oil changed for me because I don't do oil changes. I watched my dad replace my serpentine belt (when it snapped on the hwy and it took out my water pump with it).
Just to clarify something -- your belt did not snap and take out the water pump. The water pump siezed, the belt continued to ride on the frozen pulley until it overheated and snapped. So...you're close, but the water pump seized and took out the serp belt, not the other way around.
No, that is not how it happened. The serp belt busted due to being frayed/old, I was doing about 70 mph and when the belt busted it literally broke off the pulley on the water pump and took out a crank sensor.

Now you know....The rest of the story!
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The belt is an easy replacement. I have my oil changed for me because I don't do oil changes. I watched my dad replace my serpentine belt (when it snapped on the hwy and it took out my water pump with it).
Just to clarify something -- your belt did not snap and take out the water pump. The water pump siezed, the belt continued to ride on the frozen pulley until it overheated and snapped. So...you're close, but the water pump seized and took out the serp belt, not the other way around.
No, that is not how it happened. The serp belt busted due to being frayed/old, I was doing about 70 mph and when the belt busted it literally broke off the pulley on the water pump and took out a crank sensor.

Now you know....The rest of the story!
I remeber her reporting that when it happened. Her dad came out, investigated, and told her exactly how it went. You can definitely tell the different between to the scenarios...
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The belt is an easy replacement. I have my oil changed for me because I don't do oil changes. I watched my dad replace my serpentine belt (when it snapped on the hwy and it took out my water pump with it).
Just to clarify something -- your belt did not snap and take out the water pump. The water pump siezed, the belt continued to ride on the frozen pulley until it overheated and snapped. So...you're close, but the water pump seized and took out the serp belt, not the other way around.
No, that is not how it happened. The serp belt busted due to being frayed/old, I was doing about 70 mph and when the belt busted it literally broke off the pulley on the water pump and took out a crank sensor.

Now you know....The rest of the story!
I remeber her reporting that when it happened. Her dad came out, investigated, and told her exactly how it went. You can definitely tell the different between to the scenarios...
And I personally wouldn't be arguing with Tracy....She'll open up a can of whoop something on ya...

Now...what was the topic here?
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