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Old 08-05-2004, 04:11 PM   #11
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How much would you charge to do something equally as tedious??
I would come in around the $150 mark. If I was in business today, It would be probably 4 hours labor but if I had been doing it for years, or had competent installers, it would be 2-3 hours. That would be a fair labor rate, no?
So, let'* see...$150 divide by 2 guys is $75 divide by 4 hours is $18.75 an hour. Then, $18.75 an hour minus the self-employment tax, roughly 35% depending on what area, is now $12.18 an hour that'* yours. Not bad.

But wouldn't you rather make a little more per hour as being self-employed?

Just playing devil'* advocate here. I'm with you, really, I'd want to pay as little as possible. :P
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If I took it in for repairs couldn't they just fix the 2 areas that are each about 4-5" circumference. Would they still have to take it all down and do it from scratch? I had thought about filling a syringe with crazyglue and injecting the inside with the glue and then smoothing down the spots but not sure how that would turn out.
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If I took it in for repairs couldn't they just fix the 2 areas that are each about 4-5" circumference. Would they still have to take it all down and do it from scratch? I had thought about filling a syringe with crazyglue and injecting the inside with the glue and then smoothing down the spots but not sure how that would turn out.
It'* evident when it does it in a spot or two that the rest is quite deteriorated as well. No place will do just a spot or two, because you'll be in next month with one or two more spots.
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How much would you charge to do something equally as tedious??
I would come in around the $150 mark. If I was in business today, It would be probably 4 hours labor but if I had been doing it for years, or had competent installers, it would be 2-3 hours. That would be a fair labor rate, no?
So, let'* see...$150 divide by 2 guys is $75 divide by 4 hours is $18.75 an hour. Then, $18.75 an hour minus the self-employment tax, roughly 35% depending on what area, is now $12.18 an hour that'* yours. Not bad.

But wouldn't you rather make a little more per hour as being self-employed?

Just playing devil'* advocate here. I'm with you, really, I'd want to pay as little as possible. :P
That was based on one guy. But you're right though, building lease, unemployment ins., bebefits, liability ins, all that good stuff would have to be factored in too.

SSE14U24ME, I don't think repairs can be done in any decent fashion. Superglue would probably soak through the foam backing, if there is any left in the areas of your concern, and dry to a crusty, ugly white substance that would bee seen. I think it'* best just to recover the whole thing.
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Not to mention that it would possibly ruin the board. Most places that do it for you re-use the backing board. If you ruin that, then it will also need to be replaced, and the cost will be substantially higher.
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okay so forget the super glue idea. Thanks guys. I guess I will have to get some prices for the repairs.
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okay so forget the super glue idea. Thanks guys. I guess I will have to get some prices for the repairs.
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i did this a few years back w/my 82 cutlass supreme (may she rest in peace). its really not that bad, and you can have the kit w/an exact color match (or not, if that'* what you want) for about 45 bucks shipped. It takes as long as you make it take, but i took my time and spread it out over about 6-8 hours (hard to remember). The biggest concern in the cutlass was removing the headliner board w/o damaging it. I didn't have reclining seats (they were bench seats), so it was a royal pain to get that thing out w/o breaking it. but if you do accidentally break it, you can patch it back together with masking or duct tape... a little tip the guys who sold the kit told me (though luckily, i didn't have to fix anything). It takes a little bit of time to get the new headliner on to the board... this is where I took a ton of time - i didn't want anything to bunch up, and i wanted to make sure it stuck good and true to that board. after i had it all in place (you don't glue it all at once, btw), I let it sit, while every now and then rubbing it to make sure i was getting solid contact. after a few hours to cure, slap that sucker back in, replace all trim (which is almost as bad as what it was trying to get that board out of the car), and you're good to go. I couldn't believe how much better it looked after that...
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Ok, I went ahead and got it done, but at a different place. The first place wanted 125 for the headliner and the pieces on the side, and they said they would do it in 2 hours. It sounded too good, and every time I've tried to cut corners as far as price goes, its come back to bite me in the butt, so I figured I'd shell out another 30 bucks and get it done somewhere else.
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okay so forget the super glue idea. Thanks guys. I guess I will have to get some prices for the repairs.
For a temporary fix, I'm using these "Saggy Stoppers" from Wal-Mart. They're sort of like a squiggly push-pin that hold up the falling headliner.
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