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GM says Good-Bye to Bonneville

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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 05:11 PM
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I'm not sad/mad about the 3800 moving out, or the bonneville moving out....WHAT ABOUT BC GUYS?!?!?
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Logan
I'm not sad/mad about the 3800 moving out, or the bonneville moving out....WHAT ABOUT BC GUYS?!?!?
it will go on the Soul of the Bonneville will live in the new G8
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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Alpha Numeric name designations take away from a car'* characteristic. But automotive trends will always rule the market, not nostalgia. An AWD setup on a 4 door would be even better than a RWD, it'* more versatile just like all those minivan/SUV hybrids coming out.
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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I wonder whats going to be the SE, SLE and the SSEi or GXP of the G8?


SE=G8
SLE=G8 T-Type
GXP=G8i
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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I understand what you're saying about the 3.8 being an old-tech motor, but so is a Chevy 350 smallblock. I like the idea of having an old, tried-and-true motor design that'* easy to work on, easy to upgrade, and runs like the dickens day in and day out. Doesn't that appeal to anyone else? I absolutely love the idea of only needing one camshaft to make my car a little quicker. Yeah, I know an OHC configuration is easier to work on, but I go back to the point about the classic pushrod V8s of the sixties and seventies. I suppose I have an attachment to the 3800 because it'* the first car I've owned that I really wanted to work on. I'm learning about motors from the 3800, so I'd rather work on it than anything else (at this point anyway).

The other thing is that the modern automobile is becoming increasingly harder for the weekend mechanic to work on. Things are becoming more and more computer controlled, and engines are less friendly to the everyday guy with a Chiltons. I think the 3800 is still a flavor of a bygone era when cars were less complex and a dude could dig in for a weekend and come out with oil on his clothes and 20 more horses under the hood. I don't know, maybe I'm a little too ignorant to make an accurate statement. Does anyone else feel this way, or does the future of GM hold more promise for gearheads than I know?
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by big_news_1
I like the idea of having an old, tried-and-true motor design that'* easy to work on, easy to upgrade, and runs like the dickens day in and day out. Doesn't that appeal to anyone else?
Here, Here!!!

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The other thing is that the modern automobile is becoming increasingly harder for the weekend mechanic to work on. Things are becoming more and more computer controlled, and engines are less friendly to the everyday guy with a Chiltons. I think the 3800 is still a flavor of a bygone era when cars were less complex and a dude could dig in for a weekend and come out with oil on his clothes and 20 more horses under the hood. I don't know, maybe I'm a little too ignorant to make an accurate statement. Does anyone else feel this way, or does the future of GM hold more promise for gearheads than I know?
I'm with you on this. There are some manufacturers, like Volkswagen, that are making their computer controlled engines proprietary so that you HAVE to go to them to diagnose any problem when the check engine light comes on.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Ol' Timer
There are some manufacturers, like Volkswagen, that are making their computer controlled engines proprietary so that you HAVE to go to them to diagnose any problem when the check engine light comes on.
They wont get very far as it is illegal. GM already tried to do it and lost the case.
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