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Old 07-29-2002, 03:37 AM   #1
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Go here and take a look http://discussions.gmforums.com/show...525#post184525
Personally I used video in the end to make my point. Grrrrrr
I need more video I want to squash this old fart talk.

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I get it every day! People see my big 4 door sedan and think it'* slow! Well they're usually impressed if given a ride in it! (And that'* running on 5.5 cylinders too) LOL You CAN'T change the way people think! Heaven knows I've tried!
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You think that is bad try convincing old people that synthetic oil is better then conventional oil.

Best way to end any argument about oil is to ask the person what the w in the oil classification stands for.

If they can't answer correctly then just stop trying to argue.
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Well, remember, FWD is done more often nowadays because it is easier to package. But there are sometimes advantages. For example many FWD cars have independent suspension on all four corners on the car where RWD cannot have that. Just depends on the car and then you know what capabilites it has in handling. It'* not really a too big of a difference between FWD and RWD, just different priciples. Except when you are drifting then it gets a little complicated. But with FWD you need better brakes, a tougher suspension in the front and a rear end that can stay planeted and follow through so you can adjust for the car. Rather than argue, just point out to people that each one has pros and cons.
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Have you also noticed that all police cars are RWD. That'* why they drice Crown Vic'* and not chev'* any more! GM has decided to fix that problem and that'* why some carlines are changing.
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Have you also noticed that all police cars are RWD.
no, i thought all the new impalas were front?
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Have you also noticed that all police cars are RWD.
no, i thought all the new impalas were front?
Cops prefer the RWD cars for their handling characteristics in pursuits. You can put more HP and torque through a RWD than a FWD, and turning is different due to the physics involved. The Impala is FWD, it replaced the Caprice Classic which was RWD and was used a cop car previously. GM makes cop cruiser packages for the Impala, Blazer, and previously the Camaro. Ford makes cop cruisers out of Crown Vics for sure, I don't know about Explorer'* or Mustangs. Did you know that some police departments have even used a modded Grand Prix?!? Since the Crown Vic is the mass produced RWD full-size car on the market today, that is what most departments use. But the Impala does get used - I've seen them for Park Police, Fire Police, and used as unmarked State Police vehicles. Just my $.02
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Well, remember, FWD is done more often nowadays because it is easier to package. But there are sometimes advantages. For example many FWD cars have independent suspension on all four corners on the car where RWD cannot have that.
Actually, that is incorrect. Most RWD passenger cars have IRS. All BMWs, MBs, the Vette, the Mustang Cobra, even the new Ford Explorer...

I would say the reason most cars today are FWD is because of people'* driving skills. In low traction situations the average person is more likely to spin out, lose control etc with a RWD car versus a FWD car. A FWD car has most of its weight over the driving wheels which enhances traction and promotes understeer which the average driver is better equipped to handle than RWD oversteer.

When you get into racing applications RWD begins to smoke FWD...especially in drag racing, where the simple laws of physics (weight transfer) make running fast ETs in a FWD car a very difficult proposition...

FWD, RWD, both are good choices, just depends on the application. Actually in many situations AWD is the king, but then you run into cost and weight penalties...I digress, you get the point.
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The new Impala are FWD, and yes, Chevy makes a police package for them. They also made a police package for the older Luminas, as well as the Camaro. They also have a police package Tahoe.

Ford has police Crown Vics (of course), Explorers, and Expeditions (IIRC).

Daimler-Chrysler has a police package Intrepid, 3.5L SOHC making ~250hp going through the front wheels. They also had one for the Jeep Cherokee, although that model is gone now.
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RWD is what the police force was trained on so why retrain al those cops if they donít have too. This is why they try to stay with RWD. Crown vics on average hit the 130mph max. Not very fast in the sceam of things. I know a few CHP peoples and the rwd is preferred but its the Hp they want. FWD can be made to go fast but has not because the reason for the fwd in the first place was for cost effectiveness. Cheaper to make a FWD than a RWD. Thus they were mainly used in the sedan and luxury car. That said the fwd can be made to kick and through hotrodding will have its field day. Did you guys see the K-car video?? I think the fwd rwd take off issue is made mute by this video. Both FWD and rwd can have fast take off times and both trannys can take huge hp. Sooooo I believe the only difference is that FWD cars donít have the emergency brake in the right spot. LOL if this was done the fwd car could easily be made to slide properly around corners. Obviously this would be for pros only.

http://www.thedodgegarage.com/video/...upra_short.zip
I love this video

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