General GM Chat When starting new posts, please specify YEAR, MAKE, MODEL, ENGINE type, and whatever modifications you have made. Chat about all things GM (and related cars). Off-topic stuff should be in the Lounge, and all Model specific mechanical problems should be posted in the proper forum.

Does GM still make the 3800 v6 ? Also did they ever fix the intake problem

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:03 PM
  #1  
goldfinger22's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 471
Likes: 1
goldfinger22 is on a distinguished road
Default Does GM still make the 3800 v6 ? Also did they ever fix the intake problem

I just heard that GM stopped the 3800 is this true ?? If so why ??

Also I was told that after 2000 they do not have the intake problem anymore true or false ??

Thanks
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:05 PM
  #2  
Purplehazeir's Avatar
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,979
Likes: 2
From: Arlington, WA
Purplehazeir is on a distinguished road
Default

Production of the 3800 V6 engine officially ended on Friday, August 22, 2008 when plant 36 was closed. Read more about the motor here.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:06 PM
  #3  
Danthurs's Avatar
Retired Senior Admin

Expert Gearhead
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 29,661
Likes: 40
From: Sheboygan Wisconsin
Danthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to all
Default

I believe that was replaced with the 3500, I can't remember.

The intake problem was corrected with new aluminum gaskets.

I took a few of the old gaskets apart to see why they failed. They have a very thin plastic frame that fails very easy and then the rubber gasket material no longer has anything to hold on to. The aluminum gaskets fixed this by providing a much stronger support for the rubber gasket.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:07 PM
  #4  
Mike's Avatar
Retired
Certified Car Nut
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 17,960
Likes: 1,839
From: Dark Side, AZ
Mike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Wikipedia
[edit] Discontinuation
Production of the 3800 V6 engine officially ended on Friday, August 22, 2008 when plant 36 was closed. There was a closing ceremony and speakers who extolled the virtues of the engine. Originally GM had set this date for January 1, 1999; however, due to the vast number of complaints from both investors and customers because of the popularity and reliability of the engine, the date was extended. At the end of production, the LZ4 3500 OHV V6 replaced the naturally aspirated 3800 applications, and the LY7 3600 DOHC V6 replaced the supercharged 3800 applications.

Not sure about them failing in the later 2000'*.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:17 PM
  #5  
goldfinger22's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 471
Likes: 1
goldfinger22 is on a distinguished road
Default

I heard after 2000 they went to an aluminum intake ?? Like the old 3800 series 1'* used to be ??
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:21 PM
  #6  
Mike's Avatar
Retired
Certified Car Nut
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 17,960
Likes: 1,839
From: Dark Side, AZ
Mike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Originally Posted by goldfinger22
I heard after 2000 they went to an aluminum intake ?? Like the old 3800 series 1'* used to be ??
Originally Posted by Danthurs
The intake problem was corrected with new aluminum gaskets.

I took a few of the old gaskets apart to see why they failed. They have a very thin plastic frame that fails very easy and then the rubber gasket material no longer has anything to hold on to. The aluminum gaskets fixed this by providing a much stronger support for the rubber gasket.

Dan smacked that nail right through the block.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:22 PM
  #7  
Danthurs's Avatar
Retired Senior Admin

Expert Gearhead
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 29,661
Likes: 40
From: Sheboygan Wisconsin
Danthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to all
Default

That is correct. I'll post some pictures of the gaskets.

OEM gasket
Name:  P4150004.jpg
Views: 655
Size:  123.0 KB

Failed gasket
Name:  P4150008.jpg
Views: 633
Size:  65.7 KB
Name:  P4150011.jpg
Views: 621
Size:  65.4 KB

Ack, can't find a aluminum set. But, the inner plastic frame is replaced with aluminum.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:28 PM
  #8  
Mike's Avatar
Retired
Certified Car Nut
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 17,960
Likes: 1,839
From: Dark Side, AZ
Mike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond repute
Default

That looked just like mine did a couple years ago on my 95. Typical failure. On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the hardest, I give this task a 3 for repairing it.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:30 PM
  #9  
Danthurs's Avatar
Retired Senior Admin

Expert Gearhead
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 29,661
Likes: 40
From: Sheboygan Wisconsin
Danthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to allDanthurs is a name known to all
Default

I've done many of these. It'* about a 4 hour job.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 04:15 PM
  #10  
goldfinger22's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 471
Likes: 1
goldfinger22 is on a distinguished road
Default

I too think running the EGR tube which gets VERY hot into the plastic intake was not real bright. It would melt the plastin and fail
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:00 AM.