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View Poll Results: Low end power, or Top end power?
Low end (LG3, LN3, S1 "L27, L67&quot 18 39.13%
Top end (S2 "L36, L67&quot 20 43.48%
N* owner 4 8.70%
Other 4 8.70%
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Old 10-30-2007, 11:26 PM   #41
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I'm kind of confused by this because I think there'* lots of low end power on the S2. In fact, if you have never driven an S1, you couldn't really notice.

I have a 94 SSEi with a 2.6" pulley, CAI, irridium plugs, stock coils, OE replacement wires, the correct-diameter exhaust piping, an engine rebuilt 110K miles ago, and a transmission rebuilt about 35K miles ago.

1337ssei has a 97 SSEi with a 3.4" pulley with 2 degrees of KR at WOT, CAI, Autolite 103 plugs, stock coils, Belden wires, and a 3" Magnaflow pipe from the high-flow Magnaflow cat and back. He hasn't changed the downpipe, but he ran on the track with the rear 02 deleted.

I saw willwren had so much done to his car, and even had 0 degrees of KR with a 2" pulley! He fine-tuned everything, and his car was in such good shape. However, he got a 1/4 time that was only .2 seconds faster than 1337ssei'*.

Also, I've ridden in 1337ssei'* car several times and have driven it, and it just feels so good. I have had no way of checking, but I think it has more power all around as compared to my car. Taking off feels solid; with his car, you just tap the gas if you'd like, and the car'* already moving. My car feels really bogged down for a split second, and then it takes off. It feels incredible until the 3K rpm point, and then the G-force lets go until the next shift point.
Let'* take this apart bit by bit.......

Your car vs. 1337'*:
If you can't beat him to the 1/8 mile marker, ther'es something wrong with your car. Plain and simple. Stock 94/95 L67'* should lay down VERY similar times to the stock S2'*. You have more low end, they have more top end, and it works out in the end.

My car? I have BRUTAL low end. Everything I've done to date has increased the low end more than the high end. I survive by beating the S2'* to the 1/8 mile, then pray they don't outrun me from there to the traps. Only a cam will change that (stay tuned on that note).

You have two cars with nearly identical gearing (2.97 S1 L67 vs. 2.93 S2 L67). But the S2 shifts 500 rpm'* later. Which car gets more out of each gear? Why?

There'* your answer.

Stock for stock, the S1 will kill the S2 through the intersection from the green light. But the S2 will catch up at about the 1/8 mile, and run the S1 down.

It comes down to a simple matter of driving style or ENVIRONMENT. Is your daily driving and commuting on the freeway? Is the freeway clogged? S1 would be preferred for getting up to 55 mph on the onramp. S2 for passing the A-hole in the wrong lane. S1 for stoplight to stoplight. S2 for pure top-end.
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I have to vote low end.

8.6 sec 1/8 mi is all low end torque baby
Beats my 400 hp 6.6 liter low end torque beast Firebird

Low end torque is what you feel in the seat of your pants.
It'* what makes the tires spin and smoke.

Love that low end torque.

High end is there too but it'* only really relavent at speeds over 100 mph......tough to do in the city.
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The same argument is going on over at Jalopnik.com as we speak....
http://jalopnik.com/cars/question-of...wer-317082.php
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The same argument is going on over at Jalopnik.com as we speak....
http://jalopnik.com/cars/question-of...wer-317082.php
Let'* see which site wins which debate first!

And willwren, thanks.
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