Just measure your Throttle Body opening size, it should be 4" if it is, you are golden.

I couldn't load your pictures, 99....anyway, about how much did it cost you to make that? if i want one, do i pay in CDN or US? and how?? and how do i get it on to my car?? Would a regular auto shop do it, do you think??
and how much HP would you say it adds?? You haven't had any problems with it and the computer yet??
It sounds good !!

That'* odd, the pics load up for me, give me a email at krusher190@lycos.com and I will send you the pictures personally so you can view it on your computer. And it would be in US. And you can install it yourself, all you would have to do is
1) Take off your stock airbox and remove your Intake Air Temperature sensor out of your stock Airbox.
2) Put the Intake Air Temperature Sensor in the new filter.
3) Slip on the your new intake onto the Throttle Body of your car and tighten it down with a screwdriver and that'* it. I would include instructions with the filter to make sure and so that you know how to dissesemble it if the need arises.

HP wise it has added quite a bit. I am going to go to the track by next week and see much quicker my car is compared to the stock airbox. But this intake helps alot since our engines are high RPM motors which requires alot of air to operate.

Approx price should be I think $75 for the short ram as you will see in the picture when you shoot me a email. That includes everything including color choice, I still need some feedback from people to see what colors can be offered. And for a true Cold Air Intake which would be the short ram with a heat shield would probably be $100 total since the heat shield will be powdercoated in the same color choice as your intake pipe was. Hope that answers your questions.

How much for one just like you have there?
I like the aluminum. I was also thinking of attaching some sort of air dam to force more air in the direction of the cone.

OOOOOh there we go, the pictures are loading for me today.
very nice...i want one...but $100 US is like $200 for me (i'm in Canada) + shipping and handling...
was that the highest price you gave me? I want one just like that one that you have...or one a little bit more inexpensive...
I like it though, i definetly want one.

My aluminum intake costs alot, it would be like $175 w/ filter. It costs alot since it'* Aircraft quality Aluminum and it took about 30 mintues to drill the hole or the sensor which shows how tuff this stuff is.

And I am not sure about the pricing, if we can get a group buy and I am working with Angry Duck Racing to see if we can buy the metal in bulk and such to cut down the cost. And the price of $75 would most likely be with shipping included.

You could add dryer ducting but if you notice, the filter is behind the headlight and it picks up lots of cool air from right there, that'* why I put it as low as possible.

Let me know what colors you guys want? I would assume Red would be one? What other colors are you guys interested in having?
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1999 Black Bonneville SE

Mods:
3" Custom Catback Exhaust
Custom 3" Intake
MAF Screen Removed
Thrasher Shift Kit (highest setting)



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: 99BonnevilleSE on 2002-04-13 13:40 ]</font>

No, the the intake will be made out of mild steel which will be totally powdercoated in the color of your choice (like to match with the color of your car kidna thing). The intake, filter and hopefully the silicon will match all together in your color choice. I need to know what colors you guys want so I can do the final tally, research, and give the final prices.

The red strip you are referring to is silicon which can withstand 700 degree F.

It would be impossible to make a T6061 aircraft aluminum intake for $75. Mine costed well over $150 just for the materials and I did it myself.

What I need is what color choices you guys are interested in, so far I hear green and blue.

csprague - The aluminum heats up like every other metal but even after hours under the hood, it is still cool enough that I can wrap my hand around it and not burn myself at all. I could if you want just make the aluminum part, cut it, drill the hole and all the custom stuff you want and you can put what filter you want on it.

Not sure what filter will be avaiable with this. I prefer foam over K&N because people generally tend to over oil K&N'* and then your MAF screws up and it'* a big mess. Mine is a Weapon R foam filter w/ a Velocity Stack (it has an opening on the top in the middle compared to a K&N which just sucks through the sides not developing speed but swirling the air instead).

I guess another idea is the have 3 systems avaiable.

1) Short ram setup but no filter so you can choose what you want or if you already have a filter.

2) Short ram setup with filter which will color coordinate with the intake and makes it easy to install.

3) Short ram with a heat shield to make it a Cold Air Intake and the heat shield will also match in color with the intake as well.


Also, another thing to address is that my Intake Air Temperature sensor was put closer to the filter by cutting the wires and resoldering it with extra wire length. I am going to check with my neighbor'* Grand Prix and check if his sensor is the same (should be silly GM). If it is, then I can offer two choices more with this intake.

1) Senor location is close enough to use with the stock wire length for the Intake Temperature Sensor which makes no guarentees in making as much power as one closer to the filter.

2) Sensor location next to the filter could be done if you cut the wires (not recommended if you havent done this for a car before since you need special wires than resist the underhood temp'* of a car.) But this option would result in you having to but the extension harness from the Grand Prix Store for $25 dollars so it will easily attach to the sensor location next to the filter.


What I would like to do is get a group buy going, like about 5 people to cut the costs, tell me what colors you want, and then I can figure out the final price and I can get working on copying mine with Angry Duck Racing.

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1999 Black Bonneville SE

Mods:
3" Custom Catback Exhaust
Custom 3" Intake
MAF Screen Removed
Thrasher Shift Kit (highest setting)


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: 99BonnevilleSE on 2002-04-13 19:05 ]</font>

Yeah, payment methods would most likely be Paypal and Money Order/Cashiers Checks. The Paypal fee is minimal. Yeah, the GPStore'* IAT extension should work, i will doubt check w/ my neighbors 98 Grand Prix GT just in case. The aluminum duct one isnt going to be cheap and with a heat shield, its going to be as much as a AEM but as good.

And thanks, I will never give up my tint. Its 20% for the back windows/rear doors and 35% for the front windows. Here in Cali the lowest you can go without pissing off the cops for your front windows is 35%, if not, I would have gone 20% all around. And the cost for all the tint was $210 if you are curious. It took 6 hours because the back windows is one piece and he dissaembled the rear seat/deck so that the brake light is tinted also. Also the front triangular windows took him a while also, I think like 1.5 hrs for both. (I didn't watch, I just asked him).

Ok, so the tally of colors is red, green and blue.

Thanks for the response guys and I want other Bonneville Owners to benefit from this mod as much as I have.

count me in for a heatshield that matches to the top of the hood for a good seal. as well as a smooth elbow w/ connector. I already have a 3.5 opening K&N so i can use that. the location you have urs is great.
but i have a ? my cone is HUGE i think 9 inches!!!!!! will it interfere w/ the length of the elbow ???
i wont be able to buy one for another month or so keep me posted.
I just bought rims/ tint/ exhasut so im kinda tapped for a while.

thanks for DOING what u do to furher help the bonny community
btw w/ you setup and my ram air we can have a truely COLD intake

I might go carbon fiber heat shields also. I thought that would be a neat idea and such and its a possiblity. Good that I have feedback. I have a short video of my car when its cold so you get an idea of how loud it is, but once the car warms up, it goes quiet. Also shown is my 3" exhaust and how loud it is when the engine is cold also. I can make more video'* at a moments notice.

http://www.geocities.com/krusher190/...take_short.mpg

I might make some video'* to show how my suspension modifications are going as well during the summer.