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Old 03-13-2005, 08:19 PM   #11
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I won't break copyright laws, nor allow anyone else to on this forum.

Besides, the FSM'* are easily 3" thick, both volumes stacked. And that'* on fairly thin, but strong paper. Has to be thousands of pages. They're not numbered traditionally, so it'* hard to say.
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I won't break copyright laws, nor allow anyone else to on this forum.

Besides, the FSM'* are easily 3" thick, both volumes stacked. And that'* on fairly thin, but strong paper. Has to be thousands of pages. They're not numbered traditionally, so it'* hard to say.
i wasnt sure if it was illegal...feel free to delete my post so no ideas are made
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yes my 93 FSM set stands 3 1/2" high, and like will said the pages are SUPER thin, so you know that there is alot of paper in the manual
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I have the Chiltons and Haynes. I use both of them. The Chiltons has great in-depth procedures, but the Haynes is easier to find information in. Tonight, actually, I used the Haynes to look up the lug-nut torque (had to do front pads and rotors). IMO, don't overlook either manual. They both have their strong and weak points.

Chiltons #: 28200
Haynes #: 19020
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I'm the same way with the FSM, Chilton'* (2 of them actually, one 92/93 only), Haynes, and Clymer.

I bought some of them primarily for determining which was the best for reccommendations here, but find that I use them all at different times for various procedures. Haynes and Clymer often have alternate procedures that may be simpler. Like suggesting an alternate specialty tool that works almost as well as the specialty tool Chilton'* or the FSM require for a particular procedure.
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I've been thinking of getting one myself, and when I do, I think from here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=7960663514
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Hmmmm....not sure I'd do that. My local auto parts store sells them for under 20 bucks, and doesn't charge shipping.
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fair enough, I just suggested this since beckstyle seemed to be having trouble finding it in a local store.

Also, depends on where you live, but here the sales tax is 14%, so buying small items from ebay, I save that. Then, since there'* no good stores near where I live or work, if I have to make a trip to a store to buy something, if it'* the only reason for the trip, that could be an hour of my time, so if it'* something that I don't need right away, I might still consider ebay even if the price is the same as store price.
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For 10$ you cant go wrong with a Chiltons or Haynes. The FSM is just too big and bulky for work in the garage and I'd feel guilty to get my greasy/oily fingers all over one.
It seems that the Haynes manual is more for a Series 1 and hardly covers the Series 2. The Chiltons hasnt done me wrong yet, I havent been unable to find any answers in there yet.
But if you want to find out how to do things to the body and interior a FSM is probably better equipped, Chiltons/Haynes is mainly geared towards whats under the hood.
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FSMs are invaluable. My car was in the dealership garage for 8 hours and 150 dollars (my dad made them charge us for only an hour and a half ) There was a problem with the TEVES brake system. they were dumbfounded, but my dad and I found and fixed the problem in a weekend with the FSM we borrowed. I bought one on ebay for 75 bucks canadian including shipping. Takes a bit to understand the book but its worth it.
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