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Old 12-25-2004, 11:03 PM   #11
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No, I have not driven a car with "Magnasteer" however I recently drove an '00 Neon [I know, the epitome of great engineering], but it had something like that. The owner [a friend of mine] says he has some sort of electronic steering, but he doesn't know much about it. I felt that 'numb' feeling.. while my car gives me feedback. IMO, I couldn't be happier with my steering. The only thing I wish for, is some new PS lines.. so they stop leaking.


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A neon is nothing in comparision. Drive a car that has real magnasteer and I can guarantee your oppinion will change on it.
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Old 12-26-2004, 01:04 AM   #12
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Magnasteer numbs it becuase there is no physical connection. I think it'* rubbish personally.

ALL Cars steering quickens up at higher speeds.
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Old 12-26-2004, 02:45 PM   #13
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It goes to show that magazines who love Bimmers love it for qualities not too many real world Americans care for. The instant familiar feel of the Bonneville, just-right ride, broad bucket seats (most Bonnes), throttle response, and high fuel economy chimes right in with what Americans want.
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How can you guys like that Magnasteer junk? It'* so numb feeling. I like my good ol' regular power steering. It'* easy when parked or slow moving, then good and firm at higher speeds. Plus I get amazing feedback. I know exactly what my car is doing, and I like that.


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its on the 96 and up. its not junk.
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Old 12-26-2004, 03:51 PM   #15
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Gen 1 Magnsteer < Gen 2 Magnasteer in the post 2000 but I love having it. I refuse to park nose-in when parking in a parking lot and Magnasteer makes it WAY easier to navigate a large 4000 lb vessel at low speed.

I found parking a 94 GP SE in a space then backed mine in, amazing to feel the difference one after the other.

Funny how Magnasteer'd car owners love it (mostly) and non Magnasteer'd car owners dislkie it

Parking a 2 ton car with one or two fingers is great.
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Old 12-27-2004, 01:53 AM   #16
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My family has a Magnasteer vehicle @ 3 tons... Trucks shouldn't turn so lightly.... Atleast not ones with an offroad package. When we were outwest on trails i found it hard to feel what the car was doing exactly in the corners. It'* great for parking and stuff yes, but not for edge of your seat driving.

Or Yukons just have a very disconnected feel to them. It'* the only real thing i'd change about the stock truck personally. But damn is it capable off road.
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Our SSEi and GTP both have Magnasteer and its awesome IMO. At lower speeds (like under 10mph) it seems like it doesn't require enough effort to me, but I love how it stiffens up as you go faster. (moreso than a normal car) It seems to me like you can feel the road better. I would rather have magnasteer over the regular power steering I have in my GP and Calais.

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Having owned a '93 SSE, a '95 SSE, and a '99 540i, I conclude that:

Both the Bonnie and the Bimmer are nice cars.




(What, were you expecting something profound? )
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My family has a Magnasteer vehicle @ 3 tons... Trucks shouldn't turn so lightly.... Atleast not ones with an offroad package. When we were outwest on trails i found it hard to feel what the car was doing exactly in the corners. It'* great for parking and stuff yes, but not for edge of your seat driving.

Or Yukons just have a very disconnected feel to them. It'* the only real thing i'd change about the stock truck personally. But damn is it capable off road.
well no wonder you don't like magnasteer if you were experiencing it on a truck. All GM trucks I have driven (full size) have soft steering with no road feel.. it'* a truck.. I assure you the cars are different if you ever want to give on a try.
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I've driven pleny of other ones as well. I don't mind my power steering at all. They just feel dead.

Yeah i know the Yukon is bad, but it'* a 98. I've driven a few of the newer 1500 and 2500 HD trucks and SUV'*, and those seem worse to me.
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