my tire place told me these bf goodrich control plus tires would be good in the winter. wrong! These tires are always sliding and slipping upon takeoff, and I don't even drive that fast in the winter! I can barely keep up with other cars. Anyone else own these tires? I am extremely dissapointed given I paid $460 or so for them and they only have a few thousand miles.

Have Toyo proxes on my car that I got a deal on that do the same thing. Horrible in the snow.
Had to put them on the back. Tiger Paws on the front, no problem.

does your back end stay pretty firmly planted then?

Something to keep in mind when discussing performance of a tire in the snow. Traction in the snow, before a road is plowed is completely different from traction on packed down snow and/or ice. Same goes with all wheel drive vehicles. People have snow tires on their vehicles or have a 4 wheel SUV and they think they can drive on hard packed snow or ice with no problem. Wrong. Tread design and hardness of rubber have very little effect on ice or hard packed snow. We used to be able to use studded snow tires here in Minnesota and they were great on ice, but they ate the roads up and were made illegal.

I've got them on my 1990, they work fine in the rain. Not much use for snow tires here.

I've got BFG G-Force all-seasons, and they go through unplowed snow amazingly well. On hard packed snow and ice, they're as good as most snow tires...

just purchased mich x ice.. awesome in fresh snow as well as packed and ice..

a bit pricey though but worth it.

I think if I get a couple of good snow tires for the front, I should be ok?

I do notice the back end likes to swing around though.

Got brand new All season Fusions all around, man was i surprised at how well they handle. I have had plenty of test runs with these new tires(since we keep getting hit by storms over here) They grip amazingly well, biggest test was the 12" snow i had around my complex that just never seems to get plowed. I was leaving my house today and saw a plow pickup(4X4) stuck in my complex parking lot...i just drove right by him like nothing, should have seen his face lol

I'm using BFGoodrich Traction T/As and they blow in the winter. No traction on plowed snow, unplowed snow or ice. Really useless.