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Old 04-06-2005, 07:40 PM   #1
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I want better brakes, mine squeak too much because of the dust and them just being the sucky stock crap. Plus, they might not pass testing because of how dirty, dusty, and dingy they are. So, I want some slotted/ or drilled or whatever is better, and preferbably without any brake dust collecting on them, because I hate that noise with a passion. I will squeak for 20 yards when slowing down.
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Try using NAPA Ceramix pads. They don't produce as much dust(although what they do put off is a rust-red color), and they really haul you down quick.
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Do what I did. Get a set of slotted rotors from RSM racing and also get the brake pads that go with them. They are titanium/ceramic pads. They work great.

You can probably order them right from the rsm website.

I put them on my 2003 Malibu LS. I am on my second set of pads though. mind you I put about 70,000 kms ( about 44,000 miles) a year on the car and I don't drive that easy either, LOL.
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What kind of brake pads are on the car?

And when the brakes were done, were the rotors turned or replaced... I have seen a lot of issues with Albany( Autozone ) and what ever it is that Advance Discount sells... I use Bendix Titaninum Metallic pads and have been pretty happy with them... My brake fade after 400 mile runs was almost nothing... I get a little chirp once in a while when the brake are hot...

But on the same note, if its early in the morning and the brakes happen to squeek when applied the first couple of time than that would be normal..

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He may have the same problem I have. The shop told me all the squeaks were from too much hard braking and a sort of enamel melts over them. the squeak is loud as all hell, and happens almost every time.
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All I can say is you get what you pay for...

I am hard on my brakes... On my 91 when I do the brakes I will install a set of the Bendix Titanium metallic pads on it... On my 95 thus far they have been great...

I tried Albany pads at one point and ended up taking them back to autozone as they were too hard and marred the new rotors the first day... I removed the pads and rotors, lightly sanded the new rotors to remove what wear marks I could and then installed the AC Delco pads... In all of this time I have never had an issue... Noticed the wear indicator getting super close to the rotor tho, so they are almost due...

I know the exact sound you are both speaking of... And its not always due to hard braking... Not all pads are created equall.. And if the rotors aren't turned, or the glaze at least sanded off the rotor so the pads will break in, then you will run into problems...

What kind of pads were used on your car?

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I want better brakes, mine squeak too much because of the dust and them just being the sucky stock crap. Plus, they might not pass testing because of how dirty, dusty, and dingy they are. So, I want some slotted/ or drilled or whatever is better, and preferbably without any brake dust collecting on them, because I hate that noise with a passion. I will squeak for 20 yards when slowing down.
Do you work on your own car... If you want to try this,

Take the pads and rotors off the car... Sand the rotors to break the glaze( smoothness/shine) off both sides of the rotor... Take the pads and sand then down a little as well to give them a dull surface... If they begin to make that dreaded noise again very soon, then you will need new pads for sure...

There are a few diffrent pads you can buy... And there will be a lot of good reccomendations for you here... Good luck

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I did brakes before, but not on my car. They were allready sanded down and all that good junk. I think the pads are raybestos or something like that, there blue thats all I know. Everything is the stock material. The brakes squek early in the morning, high and dry in the afternoon and when the cows come home in the evening. It dont matter if its down hill or up hill, 50 mph or 5 mph they squek and there proud of it. I would just take them off and clean them, but no use, maybe for a few days they wont squek, but it will come back, it always does. That noise is unstoppable. After inspection, if they pass that, then I will look at getting a new setup, but if they dont pass then I want a upgraded quality, no more stock material.

I looked at some sites allready, looks like RSM aint bad, I found some other sites with the same rotors. Now, how are the drums set up in the back? Do the squek at all, or as much as the discs can?
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If you want quiet get a good organic pad (as they are not made of a metalic substance and will wear quickly and not make much noise) if you want stop go with a metallic pad. SBS makes the best stuff but its expensive. EBC has a good combination of stopping power and low price, and let me tell you G tech measured my 60-0 in 128 feet which is pretty dang good for a heavy azz car. They have a great initial bite and continue to stop really well after repeated hard braking. As a matter of fact when I ran my Gtech test (measuring 0-60 then 60-0) I ran 4 times in a row hard acceleration to 60 then HARD braking back down to 0 and didnt have any fade at all....good stuff. If you are looking for less brake dust then you are in LALA land brakes all cause dust and will squeek if not cleaned regularly (high pressure car wash works well for this) Ceramic brake pads are a new fad because the brake dust usually is a silver color therby matches the color of most wheels and wont show up black like mettalic pads will.....problem with ceramic pads is they dont soak the heat fast enough so instead of the heat going into the pad and backing plate then into the caliper like it should, alot more of the temps are staying right at the pad surface and then going to the nearest metal (brake rotor) alot of Police departments switched over to ceramic right after they came out thinking it was going to be great for longetivity but ended up going back to mettalics because they were going through rotors so fast. Another thing is rotors themselves can cause a squeek when braking if they are heat glazed, look at youre rotor and see if it has a bluish ring around the area where the pad touches when braking if it does then you drive like me and have to use yer brakes alot to halt down all that weight from those superlegal speeds when the detector goes off A good example would be my Buick, when I got the car the brakes were perfect and totally quite, and so I drove it like I drive (HARD) for a few months then they started to squeek, so one day at work I was having one of my techs rotate my tires and I took at look at the front rotors, low and behold that blue ring. That is when I got new slotted rotors and EBCs for the RegalEvil. What I suggest is going with a slotted rotor and a good mettalic pad (they will sometimes make a small bit of noise but will last longer work better and haul that car back down to legal speeds for the constible ALOT quicker)
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jeez sorry bout the novel, sometimes I ramble about subects I know alot about (especially at 1 am after a few brewskis!!! )
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