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Old 10-16-2007, 09:19 PM   #21
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Hi Dan!!!!

Look at the oil this way..sure it'll still have good consistency. Sure it'* designed to "last" that long, my engines go through a different torture test.....not a will dirt collect test.
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Well i'll say it like this, if someone put a Gun to my head and said "use FRAM or Die"
i would use there Extended Guard, it has better media(a syn. bled) and steel end
caps, not to bad of a filter but i still don't like the design of there ADBV..

so the Extended Guard is there top of the line filter then it just goes to hell from
there on out.

The D/G is a waist of $$, period.. you don't want PTFE in your engine it does nothing
for it..

FRAM has too may dang names for there filter,no one else does this, why? marketing..

and the Extra Guard, well..."Orange can a death"
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I guess i better say this....for the people that think i'm picking on FRAM..

by no means will a FRAM filter ruin your engine,,i repeat by no means will a FRAM filter ruin your engine,but...i look at it like this, Marijuana will not kill you but do you really
want it in your body? not me..
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I guess i better say this....for the people that think i'm picking on FRAM..
I was only interested in your opinion on the two Fram filters. I can sometimes pick up the Fram EG for $2 at Pep Boys or via a Fram rebate. Usually I have a Purolator for my truck but is the EG is on sale I will pick it up.

I consider most Frams junk myself.
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Always Mobil 1 and Purolator PureONE filter for me. I've heard nothing but good things about them, and they are definitely, IMHO, the best quality for the best price.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:40 AM   #26
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Hey, awesome! Good to see we're doing well on the topic. I got these two links in the PM:
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters.html
http://www.lesabret.com/filters/filter.html
I don't know if you have them already, but since I'm making a "definitive" thread about oil filters, I figured I might have this here. I read both pages from top to bottom, and I feel pretty good.

So, is Champion Labs good? Here'* what Knizefamily wrote about Mobil 1:

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This filter is made by Champion Labs and uses a synthetic fiber element that can filter out very small particles. It is rated by the manufacturer at just under the Purolator Pure One as far as filtering capability, but is still very much above conventional paper filters. It also has a very strong construction to withstand high pressure spikes during start-up. Given the choice between the Purolator Pure One and the Mobil 1 filters, I would choose the Mobil 1 because of the restriction concerns of the Pure One. However, as with all Mobil 1 products, expect to pay 2 - 3 times as much for this filter. I have seen this filter sold at AutoZone and K-mart and used them a few times, but I feel they are not worth the money.

Though I have never had problems, I have received feedback from a few people that these filters may leak at the base. It seems that the seal between the backplate and can may burst under high pressure (at startup). These were on Ford engine applications.
I had figured that the filters with the rubber gaskets crimped on instead of just set there were a whole lot better off. Is this completely off and unrealistic, or can crimping on the rubber cause leaks?
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I bought a PureOne 24011 filter with a 5-qut jug of Mobil 1. At the oil change, I'll cut up the oil filter and take some pictures. I expect the fins not to be bent, and this is a concern because I've read this filters a bit harder than most filters. What do you think will happen?
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Might I bump this?

I am very sorry about the extreme delay in this topic, but some random things happened, and I couldn't get anything done with my cars. No pictures, either.

Last month, I cut up the AC Delco PF52 oil filter, and it looked all right. I had it in a vice, and that kind of bent the fins... The oil inside looked clean, as I suspect 1000-mile synthetic to be. According to the inside, the core wasn't bent at all. I wonder what happened. Unfortunately, I have no pictures of this.

I'm running 10W-30 with Purolator oil filters in all my cars now, except two Fords that have Motorcraft. Thanks to this thread, I found out Motorcraft is really, really good. There have been a lot of really cool finds through those links and a few other web pages I've breezed through.

As of now, the SLE has only 40 PSI whether cold, hot, idling, or running. Sometimes while idling, the pressure drops to the high 30s. With its strange coolant temp gauge, I don't trust the dashboard much, so I'm going to look into getting a mechanical oil gauge for both cars.

So, I wouldn't mind if we could find out why the oil pressure in my cars is so reportedly low. I'm going to try the "oil volume" kit that Intense and ZZP sell on both cars, and I'll let you know how that works out. Also planned is to see how the oil pressure changes if I go to a Mobil 1 in the SLE, known for its better maximum flow as compared to the Purolator series. However, I still consider Purolator to be the best consumer-grade oil filter on the market.
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They do not sell oil 'VOLUME' kits. They sell oil PRESSURE kits.
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What is the reason not to run an AC Delco, a Motorcraft, or Mopar accordingly but rather to go to a Mobil 1 or K&N? I get upwards of 40 PSI at any given time. When my full-synthetic oil gets about 4500 miles on it, the pressure starts dropping from 40 to about 20-35 at idle.
I'm sorry but if your oil pressure is dropping at only 4500 miles you have something else wrong. I can and do go 10,000 miles between each oil change(we have over 165,000 miles on our car) with Mobil 1 5/30w. Ask Paul(2000SilverBullet), i thought he was going to have a heart attack when he saw my oil life system on 0% so i just reset it to 100% and i guess he felt better, it'* much easier for me to go by the mileage on the oil. I know of two ways to check to see why your oil psi is dropping, one way is to pull the motor and tear it apart or take some of the old oil and mail it to Blackstone Laboratories and have an oil analysis done.
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/index.html
The last time i had one done on the SSEi(149,000 miles) we had 9k miles on the oil and i could have gone at least another 6 or 8k on it but i changed it at 10k, it makes it real easy to remember when to change the oil. Next oil change 170k miles. I use Baldwin or Mobil 1 filters.

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